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Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
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Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:52:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
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> > Gist is the aide handed in her resignation again, and this time JC accepted.
> >
> > Quoteth from the article
> > "
> > Ducros apologized for her comment last week and offered to resign, but
> > Chrétien rejected her resignation at that time.
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> > But in a letter of resignation to Chrétien today, Ducros wrote: "It is very
> > apparent to me that the controversy will make it impossible for me to do my
> > job."
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> > Chrétien accepted the resignation, responding in a letter: "In your almost
> > four years as director of communications, you have served the government as
> > a whole, and me personally, with extraordinary skill and dedication.">"
> >
> > Secondly, a more detailed retort from John in a previous post:
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> > Quoteth John
> > "
> > I am not for silencing criticism, but I think that insults are not necessary.
> > How about *constuctive* criticism-- that's what I'd like.
> > "
> > and
> > "
> > Only that it was my whole point. It was a cheap shot, and I was commenting on
> > how I am tired of cheap shots that are devoid of substance.
> > "
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > The aide was "speaking her mind" and the "devoidation of substance" is in
> > the eye of the beholder. Her point, born out by the people she was speaking
> > with when the 'moron' word was overheard, quoted, and the media circus
> > ensued, was the same one that many other folks are making--that going after
> > anyone *not* OBL is moronic. There is truth and substance to that point,
> > which makes her point neither a cheap shot, nor devoid of substance.
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> The term "moronic" is patently condescending, thus making it indeed a cheap
> shot. Further, you may not agree with this logic:
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> 1) Sadam has or is developing WMD.
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> 2) Sadam is sympathetic to terrorist organizations
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> 3) OBL is the leader of a terrorist organization.
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> 4) Therefore, it is certainly conceivable that Sadam could easily provide OBL
> with WMD.
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> But that logic is hardly "moronic", and calling it so is ignorant.
John,
Q. Who trained OBL? [A. USA]
Q. Who helped SH get WOMD? [A. USA]
Q. Which nation has sloppy bio-security [A. USA et al]
Q. Which nation has threatened to use nukes in the ME [A. USA]
Q. If SH does have WOMD, what scenario would make him most likely to use them?
[A. war with the USA]
Q. Who supports the only nation known to have nukes in the region [A. USA]
Q. Who wants Iraq's oil [A. USA et al]
Now, using your powers of logic, find the common factor...
Scott A
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> > Further, it takes a little bit of guts to speak against Dubya at this time
> > and I applaud her, being in a position of power, for doing so.
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> > I also applaud her for taking the high road and resigning.
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> The high road? Calling someone's idea "moronic" when you disagree with them
> isn't on that route.
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> > So John, thanks for responding to the actual criticism.
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> Since I gather you are being facetious, I'll say "you're welcome".
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> -John
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