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Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
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Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:29:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > And your rhetorical point is weakened still further since you're concluding
> > > that, because diplomacy hasn't worked in one situation, it cannot work in
> > > another.
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> > I asked for an instance where it *has* worked in a major conflict. Can you
> > cite?
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> You're setting an impossible task, you realize; there have been few
> instances of conflicts solved solely by diplomacy because such conflicts
> almost invariably start as exchanges of force. Therefore there no pure
> diplomatic solutions to cite.
> Can you show me an instance where pure force solved a conflict and
> maintained the subsequent peace?
Rome vs. Carthage, the three Punic Wars. The third was pure force, resulting
in the total anihilation of Carthage (even in physical terms) and
enslavement of the surviving carthaginians.
That is, in fact, a permanent solution. Question is, is it "doable" in
present days? If it were - would YOU participate in it? (1) I wouldn't.
> > > By the way--what *would* Jesus drive?
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> > For starters, it would have to be big enough to carry him and his 12
> > disciples....
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> John--in all seriousness and without any sarcasm, I must commend you for
> that. I've heard all manner of condemnation for this ad campaign, with
> Robertson going almost so far as to call it blasphemy. Honestly, I don't
> see the problem; if it's okay to ask the unanswerable question "What would
> Jesus do?" then surely it's okay to rephrase it into the equally
> unanswerable question "What would Jesus drive?" I'm gratified and,
> admittedly, a bit surprised to see that you have a sense of humor about it!
You mean to say that was an AD??? :-S
(What car, BTW?)
Pedro
(1) - "it" being the total anihilation of an enemy, way beyond his will to
fight has been crushed.
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| Read of the end of Carthage: (URL) skip the last paragraph where Scipio compares Carthage to Troy. Innumerable wars have ended with complete annihilation of the enemy. The world is littered with dead cities, dead languages, untraceable peoples. The (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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