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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
> > That is true, although it does not tell us what happened to the slaves *in
> > time*: did their descendents eventually gain citizenship?
>
> Who knows? But there are not too many identifiable folk who have not
> assimilated. That nobody really understands precisely what a helot was, is
> one demonstration.
>
> I know of a story of one annihilated city whose survivors petitioned their
> tyrant to let them return over 20 years later. The image it makes is of a
> ragged band of old men hoeing fields. Certainly Thebes was resettled. Then
> there is Hisarlik with 11 cities all in a pile...
I recall a NG documentary where the explorers dug a basement in Jericho
(sp?), and found an almost complete arsenal of human arms since Ancient
Times to 1947 Independance war of Israel. In *a single* basement... so I can
understand what you mean with building over ruins continuously.
> > (out of curiosity, the Tower and the games are separate articles, aren't they?)
>
> Yes. The Prestige story spills
(Good choice of words! :-)
> from the front page onto page 12, followed by
> the Pentathlon story and an ad for "Your anniversary date in Roman Numerals"
> on a gold ring.
>
> I find myself thinking of the satirical novel _Towing Jehovah_ in which a
> tanker captain, having run his single-hulled ship aground, suffers
> nightmares of a dying, oil-soaked albatross, but receives a chance to redeem
> himself when the Vatican hires him to tow God's titanic dead body out of the
> Atlantic into the Arctic for freezing. He doesn't tell the Pope, but he
> calculates how much faster they can tow God if His blood is pumped into
> another tanker first. Along the way they are forced to eat God after the
> crew mutinies, but the ship's cook finds a way to make God taste like
> McDonald's Big Mac.
Sounds surrealist... I wonder if there is a portuguese edition? ;-)
Pedro
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