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Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
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Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:28:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> Gist is the aide handed in her resignation again, and this time JC accepted.
>
> Quoteth from the article
> "
> Ducros apologized for her comment last week and offered to resign, but
> Chrétien rejected her resignation at that time.
> But in a letter of resignation to Chrétien today, Ducros wrote: "It is very
> apparent to me that the controversy will make it impossible for me to do my
> job."
> Chrétien accepted the resignation, responding in a letter: "In your almost
> four years as director of communications, you have served the government as
> a whole, and me personally, with extraordinary skill and dedication.">"
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> Secondly, a more detailed retort from John in a previous post:
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> Quoteth John
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> I am not for silencing criticism, but I think that insults are not necessary.
> How about *constuctive* criticism-- that's what I'd like.
> "
> and
> "
> Only that it was my whole point. It was a cheap shot, and I was commenting on
> how I am tired of cheap shots that are devoid of substance.
> "
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> Well,
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> The aide was "speaking her mind" and the "devoidation of substance" is in
> the eye of the beholder. Her point, born out by the people she was speaking
> with when the 'moron' word was overheard, quoted, and the media circus
> ensued, was the same one that many other folks are making--that going after
> anyone *not* OBL is moronic. There is truth and substance to that point,
> which makes her point neither a cheap shot, nor devoid of substance.
The term "moronic" is patently condescending, thus making it indeed a cheap
shot. Further, you may not agree with this logic:
1) Sadam has or is developing WMD.
2) Sadam is sympathetic to terrorist organizations
3) OBL is the leader of a terrorist organization.
4) Therefore, it is certainly conceivable that Sadam could easily provide OBL
with WMD.
But that logic is hardly "moronic", and calling it so is ignorant.
> Further, it takes a little bit of guts to speak against Dubya at this time
> and I applaud her, being in a position of power, for doing so.
> I also applaud her for taking the high road and resigning.
The high road? Calling someone's idea "moronic" when you disagree with them
isn't on that route.
> So John, thanks for responding to the actual criticism.
Since I gather you are being facetious, I'll say "you're welcome".
-John
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| (...) John, Q. Who trained OBL? [A. USA] Q. Who helped SH get WOMD? [A. USA] Q. Which nation has sloppy bio-security [A. USA et al] Q. Which nation has threatened to use nukes in the ME [A. USA] Q. If SH does have WOMD, what scenario would make him (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I spoke too soon on many fronts-- First (URL) is the aide handed in her resignation again, and this time JC accepted. Quoteth from the article " Ducros apologized for her comment last week and offered to resign, but Chrétien rejected her (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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