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"I am told that" "it is probable that" "at least some" American-Christians "seem" to fund the IRA?
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Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:23:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > > > Better
> > > > he should stick to the easy target of check-turning Christians....
> > >
> > > I think you mean *cheek* turning christians. Unless, of course, you're
> > > referring to the "Irish Americans who apparently keep turning checks over to
> > > the IRA that someone keeps trying to use as an argument...
> >
> > If you mean me, I don’t think I have ever made any link between the IRA and
> > American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are] specifically?
> > Call me on that if I’m wrong, otherwise I’d appreciate some clarification.
>
> Breaking my usual practice of ignoring you and your nonsense,
I find that comment a little disingenuous. To be honest, I wish you would just
ignore me.
> I decided to
> see how hard it was to clarify this for you. It wasn't hard at all.
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> Using the search string "fund terrorist ireland arthur" it's not too hard to
> dig up lots of examples where you point out that Americans fund Irish
> terrorist groups. Here's just one. Excerpting from:
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> http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=16252
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> -start-
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> The UK has been under *sustained* terrorist attack for 30+ years. These
> attacks are largely funded by your own countrymen! The latest attack was
> planned for just yesterday:
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_1954000/1954225.stm
As I said, "I don’t think I have ever made any link between the IRA and
American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are]
**specifically**?"
The quote you give does not contradict my statement.
> -end-
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> Note that I shan't deny that various Americans of whatever stripe(1) fund
> various terrorist and paramilitary groups (with their own personal funds, it
> should be noted) on both sides of the NI conflict.
>
> I merely pointed out (in passing, while riffing on what I felt was a rather
> humorous typo of John's) that it's not a valid counter argument for the vast
> number of things that you tend to use it for.
It's hard to comment on that unless you give examples. Just assume I disagree
for now.
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> I expect that distinction will be lost on you, since you're such an
> uncritical thinker, but a good debater wouldn't misuse it as a counter so
> very much and so very often.
A good debater would not "snigger" at the views of others. ;)
>
> Hope that helps.
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> 1 - I am told that we are a christian nation, that is, most Americans
> profess to be christian. Since much US IRA fundraising seems to happen among
> ethnic Irish US citizens, it follows that it is probable that at least some
> of them are christian, validating my throwaway comment to John.
lol squirm! "I am told that", "seems", "it is probable" & "at least some".
As I said, "I don’t think I have ever made any link between the IRA and
American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are]
**specifically**?"
The quote you give does not contradict my statement.
Call me on that if I’m wrong, otherwise I’d appreciate some clarification.
Scott A
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| (...) Breaking my usual practice of ignoring you and your nonsense, I decided to see how hard it was to clarify this for you. It wasn't hard at all. Using the search string "fund terrorist ireland arthur" it's not too hard to dig up lots of examples (...) (22 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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