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(...) Postal Services worldwide, being overwhelmed by lettters from the kids to Santa Claus, petitioned the Canadian Government for years to change a specific Postal Code(1). One of the last things PET did before he stepped down was to make an (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You also have to ignore embassies. :-) Jude BTW, Santa lives in Quebec (All postal codes beginning with H are in la belle province). (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think there is any part of the United States that is due north of any part of Canada, unless you're talking about that little wedge of land known as the pan handle of Alaska--that may be due north of Victoria Island. Alaska is more of (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I hasten to add that I grew up *due north* of Canada...in the United States (shouldn't be hard to figure out where). :) LFB (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The Prince" by Niccolò Machiavelli (URL) reading of "L’Histoire de Juliette, ou les Prospérités du Vice" by Comte Donatien Alphonse François De Sade wouldn't hurt either. Lacking a URL, I give you this: "The mechanism that directs government (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) without (...) relocated (...) Before I get down the answer proper, is it safe to take your note as an assertion opposite mine -- that sentimental attachment to a particular area highly productive? Now, as you well know, I would not take well (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I came up with this great idea the other day. We should release quarters with the Canadian provinces the way we're doing with American states. It was a silly conversation, but I was just imagining the uproar (from all sides) if our mint (...) (22 years ago, 30-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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"Suzanne D. Rich" <suz@baseplate.com> wrote in message news:542B6FFC-6DBE-1...ate.com... (...) I also have a conscience pang about doing something like this, but at first I could not figure out why. It does not seem to hurt either store explicitly. (...) (22 years ago, 30-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (ka-snip of worthy observations regarding Bush, Enron, the Conservative Media, etc.). (...) United Statesian is so confusing to those of us who live so close to the border of the United States of Mexico. Which United Statesian are they (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What possible "proof" could I provide that would change your mind? None; a useless exercise which I choose to ignore. (...) I never said it did. I merely said it was an article which may explain our differences. (...) I don't even know if what (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, call us even. Dave! (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You did, I work for EDS in Ottawa, Ontario. Jude (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come on, Steve. They gave us Michael J. Fox--don't wish American politicians on him. Of course, they did dump Alanis Morisette on us. What if we give them Ross Perot? Dave! (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heh. So your pols are all American, then? (Ottawa -> 45.42N,75.7W) Steve (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:GwsvMD.Iu5@lugnet.com... (...) Apparently there were three separate sources with the US Government and secret services about terrorist activities pertaining to events leading up to (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, just expressing my view. (...) However, the article is interesting. It compares the US and European Press without saying who is right or wrong. Its main conclusion is that the European Press is more pro-Palestinian than what you have in (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, possibly, though I don't believe so in this case. (...) Welcome to the real world. (...) (URL) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you trying to *bait* me? Here's another article which may explain our differences: (URL) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I seriously doubt that anyone in authority knew 9/11 "specifically" was about to happen. I think it is pretty clear that something like 911 could have been predicted{1}, and that perhaps air security should have been tightened a touch (and/or (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, obviously the first *televised* moon landing was filmed on a sound stage (in Death Valley, as it turns out, rather than Hollywood). The underlying conspiracy is that the real first lunar landing took place in 1963 as part of a joint (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lemme ask a question here. How well do you think our democracy works in a situation like this? What could Bush have done to stop it? What *have* they done to stop it? Reinforced airplane doors? Heightened security? How much pressure do you (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can any thinking person actually, logically, believe that any sitting president would look the other way while their country was attacked just for economic gain? This goes beyond politics to basic human morality. I refuse that any person in a (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) some kind of Bush apologist, from this and other occasions people have called attention to her work. But here is the thing -- I really don't give a damn about Bin Laden or Afghanistan if our president, the intelligence community, the national (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (here it comes...) Yeah, well, I'm not American and I couldn't give a rat's patootie what some gun lovin' hick from Texas thinks of me. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, unless *proven* that he knew specifically that 9/11 was going o (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, Scotland has "refugees" in much of commonwealth (e.g. Canada and NZ). But that's all in the past; we are one big happy nation now. I'm even looking forward to viewing England's progress in the World Cup. I have enjoyed their last two (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <blink blink> Really? The Scots and the English have been assuming ownership of each others abandoned property for centuries, I thought. They've even occaisionally arranged for a little spontanious abandonment. James (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You don't have proof then! Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Be careful Richard. The USA is at W A R. As such, your comments are unpatriotic. The thought police will be knocking on your door any moment now. Scott A (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If a family has lived on the same plot of land for generations, why should they be removed (relocated) without compensation to provide a home for an economic migrant from the former USSR who has chosen relocation to improve his own personal (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're wrong. Read around the subject a little more. As the Israeli forces advanced they destroyed whole villages in their path. Israel was able to clear 80% of Palestinians from the area (~700,000 individuals). (...) Well, I think they wanted (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm definitely on the same page with that--take the land away from both parties. Like a parent taking a toy away from two fighting kids until they both act more mature. As for the pregnant men--ouch!--Arnold in 'Junior' Dave (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) only relocation by their own choice - AFAIK, Israel never forced anyone to leave their houses in '48 (or '67), the people who left did so from their own free will. Fearing Israel will do to them what the Arab countries would have done to the (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is the part that messes me up, though; aren't there quite a few people now living in that region who were personally subject to relocation? If so, then they would seem to have a legitimate grievance. (...) Well, sure--I agree that (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I like(1) the solution offered in _The Fresco_ (by Sheri S. Tepper, an SF author who really has grown on me lately, she's worth some careful reading) In that novel the aliens, after observing the situation, ejected everyone from old (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One difference is that you haven't been warring with the same faction for the last 2000+ years. If, out of the blue, someone were to come knocking at your door and relocate your family, an injustice has just occured against you. If, on the (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: Dave! (...) Its definitly okay to call youself American. I have as yet to meet a person in Canada who thinks differently. On our news, in our papers, we call you guys south of the 49th 'Americans'. (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So I take it that if the ATF dropped by your place this afternoon and relocated your family to, I don't know, a desert in New Mexico, you'd just buck up and make the best of it? If not, then please explain the difference for me. Dave! (22 years ago, 26-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm American(1), and I don't like him either, but I'll likewise give him the benefit. However, a number of right-wing demagogues in the media *still* gripe about Clinton as if he's *still* busily destroying the entirety of the universe, but (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) points out that knowing that *some* terrorist attack *may* happen *somewhere* and knowing that a bunch of insane moronic idiotic lower-than-life infidels hijacking planes with knives and such at 8 a.m. on Tuesday September 11, 2001 , are (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow -- if that turns out to be true in the long-term I think I am feeling fairly outraged. Bush has done nothing but use the whole crisis to boost his popularity, and now it may be that he knew in advance. Shades of what Roosevelt knew about Pearl (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: [snip] (...) [snip] (...) Well, at least with no journalists there, it's a chance the reports could possibly be accurate & unbiased. ROSCO (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What a fool I am to have waste my breath engaging in any conversation with you. It won't happen again. BBye. (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well.... I agreed with everything you said in the parts that I snipped away, but I guess maybe I should have dug up a Clinton era example alternate history. (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:Gws7tC.8xt@lugnet.com... (...) security. (...) suck up (...) The 'security' move that puzzles me is not providing metal knives and forks with your inflight meal, but only plastic (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the record, I knew your position on this. Sorry if it seemed otherwise. I think we are very much on the same page on this, politically. Thought experiment-wise, and the pleasures hidden therein, we may be of different minds. Then again, (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My guess would be that the possession of weapons by Palestinians in the occupied territories, is regulated by the Oslo accord. This agreement regulates a number of issues in the area, for example Israeli settlement construction and the mandate (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think Richard and Chris answered most of your other points. (...) Well why did they not let the UN in? (...) Indeed it does. (...) Do you have proof of that, or is this your old view: Palestinians = terrorists. (...) It should be the press's aim (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, we're not. I speak from experience when it comes to airport security. Talk about your window dressing? More hassle, more inconvenience, more delay, but no more actual security. Just a big shiny new agency to suck up tax dollars and (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Only if you say so, Lar. "The scurrilous loss of freedom in the name of security, and other changes, and blindly support(ing) the Prez" would almost be worth it IF we were getting real value for those changes. That's a HUGE if, and it just (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd prefer that Israel just issue the caveat that when they feel the need to shoot in a particular direction, they aren't going to hold their fire merely because members of the press are in the way. Then, the press members can make their own (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, You really are a worry. I wish I could just dismiss all the news I dislike as being part of some sort of conspiracy. Life would be so much easier! The facts were: 1. Heavy gunfire coming form Jenin 2. Israel, a nation with an appalling (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well the West Bank is the world's worst place to be a journalist: (URL) A (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of damned if they did, damned if they didn't... (and otherwise only VERY LIGHTLY linked to this thread if at all) (URL) so happens that I do not quite support the theory that KP is advancing (that we need to line up docilely for the (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) bias (...) Hmmph. Media, schmedia. A quote from the news this morning: "Israel has had to endure 5 suicide bombings in the last week, 2 of which resulted in deaths." It has been my understanding that *all* suicide bombings result in at least 1 (...) (22 years ago, 26-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought they called themselves "the right" because, for all their faults, they retain a healthy sense of irony. 8^) Dave! (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) I hope that the majority of scientists are out trying to prove the null hypothesis! The whole goal of the scientist is to devise every possible way of disproving their idea and carrying out those tests. Only when they are unable...and (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Correct:-) You know Chris, they don't call the right "right" for nothing;-) (...) Which leads to the question, why do "studies" at all? Seems to me that their purpose is to influence popular opinion by their results and advance agendas, (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like the center appears to be the left when viewed from the right. Right? Non serious studies are those that set out to support a point as part of a funded agenda rather than to seek the truth. I would suggest tobacco health studies done (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. What irks me is the unwillingness of the media to acknowledge their own leftist leanings in their reporting, and their willingness to go way beyond the scope of their job description. (...) Possibly. But again, the arrogance, the (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I love you guys. Well, it's been real...back to work. But first I gotta go return my Gunship at KayBee! Just kidding =) I feel good today, hope everyone else does, too. -Matt . (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more of an unobtainable goal than an actual job description. Balanced reporting is a moving target and the best a reader can hope for is to understand the bias of the author of any given text -- then the reader is well positioned to (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Serious"??? As opposed to what other kind?:-) Well anyway, from the left, the center does appear to be the right;-) The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so (...) No, the rumors persisted because the media was so jaded by their bias (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I have said before, serious academic studies have shown that the Western Media has a pro-Israel bias. The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so long was because the Israel did not allow the press into the area (indeed they would (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd like to brag about a scam I pulled of in my college years, could we have a no-flame support group for this sort of thing on LUGNET or is everyone here more morally complete than me? TRU probably hated me, but KB and my LEGO pile loved me (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Pesonally, I don't appreciate the braggadocio aspect of the original post. However, heres a counter example (hypothetical of course)... Suppose someone takes the Target ad into a WalMart and asks "see this ad, will you match Target's price ?" (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But it could be illegal just publishing the novel. Just look at the DVD CCA / MPAA case against DeCSS. ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Congratulations to everyone concerned in regards to their congnitive deducing skills. I had to read half the thread before I had fully figured out what Matt had done and some had already flamed him in the first few posts!! Not much to add here (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with you--if I'm writing a novel, I can "conceive" of any number of ways to commit fraud or theft or murder, but in itself that's no wrongdoing. Though I suppose that, if I commit any of those acts, my pre-planning might incriminate (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I misspoke, but I'm not sure that's entirely your grievance with my post anyway. Rephrase above to "My guess is they're *also* mad at him..." Not to imply that people aren't mad for other reasons, which I think they are. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) thank you for posting these links. sheree (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not necessarily true at all, and it would be somewhat narrow and narcissistic of a person to decry only that which he could not bring himself to get away with. The reason I abhor murder has nothing to do with the likelihood that I'd get caught (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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I think it has more to do with the fact that he came here and bragged about it then it has to do with it actually being wrong. If you are going to do something shifty, the least you could do is keep it to yourself. Bragging about it is just asking (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) Agree 100% :) My guess is they're mad at him for "getting away with it". Something like: "I couldn't bring myself to do that as it's against my moral sense, and I, as a result, think that nobody should be ABLE to get away with it. So I'm mad (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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These devastating articles reveal a lot about I have been saying about the bias of the press WRT to Israel and the Palestinians. (URL) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip entire debate of fraud on target, Wal-Mart of Jango Fett Slave I> All these wonderful posts on Matt commiting fraud... =) After reading all these post for and against his actions it makes me wonder if those who are mad at him are INDEED mad at (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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I dunno if it's just me noticing something that really isn't there but... Holy Super IQ Batman, these people are intelligent! Having never graduated from any post secondary institution, I at least always prided myself on being at least a little (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if the wrong, which started so many years ago, which is also continuing because it is being perpetuated by *both* sides, continues? Who's at fault *today*? They *both* are. Let me try a different analogy and see if you like it better. (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) I can't agree HK is all that good a comparator. The cold war also had a huge impact in the ME… this was less true of HK. (...) What if the wrong, which happened so many years ago, is continuing? (...) You are using the actions of a (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bingo! FUT: .off-topic.useless-pastimes ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I agree that both Iraq and Iran have been very influenced by the West and could evolve into productive states on this planet, but of course that very westernization is what is driving the Islamic fundamentalists in those countries in the first (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ? Sure they did-- they didn't mean to mark it down by such a percentage, hence they're losing money. IE for each Slave I they sell at $24.99 they loose about $25.00. Not *REALLY* since (more likely) more are being sold than otherwise would, (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) I guess I am just trying to give some perspective to the "us vs. them" mentality that seems to pervade these discussions -- and I insist that there is no "us" and also no "them." Human being are capable of atrocity if pushed to a point beyond (...) (22 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Huh? Target didn't lose anything---they were clearly willing to sell the sets as advertised. However, the original post clearly indicates *fraud*, in that: Two Slave Is were purchased at Target, at a cost of $50 (MSRP $100 for both). Those (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
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(...) John--which Arab governments are based on religion? In fact the most secular government in the region is Saddam Hussein's Iraq-- which is why he was our proxy against the Islamic theocratic Republic of Iran. Now, that *is* a religious (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah. Suz, no offense, but you have no future in .debate if you're going to be coherent. Sheesh. ;) Actually, I've kept silent in the debate, because I'm of two minds-- yes, it's fraudulent, but in fact they've anticipated it and still do not (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is the accepted wisdom, and no doubt that was a big part of the justification. But I don't think it was the only reason. (...) An interesting sidebar: Another point that's often been brought up is the less morally but far more (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Y'know, I almost think it might depend on the manager-- After all, they'll let you return items without receipts (for store credit only, of course), which implies that they already know FULL WELL that customers can return things from other (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, there was a rational reason for dropping those-- to end the war, and prevent even *more* widespread killing. And it worked. That is not to say that that call was a no-brainer. It was an agonizing decision to make, and truthfully, the (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean like dropping bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? No argument. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Y'know, this is the kind of post that really ticks me off! It's well-reasoned, supported by anecdotal evidence and interesting marketing theory, and stated in a focused and concise manner. What is this statement doing in debate!!! -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not my spin. That is *totally* putting the situation WAY out of context. As I mentioned before, I kind of question the motives of people who would put *so* much importance upon this minor problem (in the context of all of the problems on earth (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi folks! uh, I'm kinda new here.. (in fact, I think this is my first non-follow-up post to o.t.d) I'm not at all interested in debating anything with anyone. BUT, as far as I noticed, no one mentioned something that, I think, puts a little (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Look at it this way. Perhaps what he is trying to point out is that a government based upon a religion *is* irrational. I am all for the separation of church and state as I'm sure you are as well-- the Arabs terrorists and Arab state (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Go, Baby, Go!!! Talk about ethnocentric views -- could that author have had more ready judgments about other people and their way of life? And talk about your straw man arguments: Arafat at the head of a Palestinian state as the desired goal? (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Before I start, I want to say, I respect you greatly, Tim... (...) I was out of line here. I've had one of those months. Plus, on top of that, I've been putting the finishing touches on a persuasive essay about Afghanistan being the next Vietnam, a (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought that the entire article was written with a cynnical 'tongue in cheek' method. I don't think the author is racist, but rather looking at the "facts" as he sees them and saying that' "Hey, you've had just as much opportunity thru the (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> I have to say I started by reading the conclusion first. This line caught my eye: “Being Arabs, they are incapable of constructing a rational polity, so their future is probably hopeless whatever happens.” As I am not aware of any (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That does not really answer my question. Your point, even if true, does not justify Israel’s actions in any way. Does it? (...) To be honest, I have no idea. (...) I can't agree with that view. (...) Peace on Israel's terms? Barak went to the (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As you wish, my master (with deep, pious bow). My mirror doesn't have a moral meter on it...can I get one installed or do I need a new mirror? -Matt . (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hey guys (and ladies), I have an idea...let's all do lunch some time. C'mon it'll be fun! My treat. -Matt . (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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