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Re: Poor Target....
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Wed, 22 May 2002 18:47:59 GMT
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Before I start, I want to say, I respect you greatly, Tim...
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:
> *BIG BIG SIGH*
>
> Gosh I don't know where to start. I read this message within the minute
> after it was posted this evening while sitting in class, and instantaneously
> I knew it would erupt into a flamewar. When things get slow on the
> 'Friendliest place on the internet' its bound to happen.
>
> I've sat silent for a few months on threads like this. I used to be a big
> participant in these types of threads too, until I reached my breaking point.
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> What I'm most frustrated at is the people on here who think its their duty
> to dissect each and every person's actions. I'm not talking about stuff
> like gently reminding people to post in a different group, or asking someone
> not to post the same message repeatedly to a market group. What I'm talking
> about is how everything winds up in a debate of morality, religion,
> politics, etc.
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> I think its debates like this one that devalue this sector of the LEGO
> community for a lot of people. It sure took me long enough to realize it.
> Its tiresome and insulting to the sensibilities of the people who come here
> to enjoy the LEGO hobby.
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> I've watched several threads like this in the last few weeks, over silly
> things. I don't want to argue morality here, though I do have a view on it,
> for me this is a bigger issue. What Matt does is up to him, what everyone
> else thinks about what Matt does is their own business. These aren't issues
> that are constructive in the least to building solidarity in this community.
> Why share them here?
>
> And the personal attacks. Sheesh.
>
> From http://news.lugnet.com/starwars/?n=13255 John Rudy writes:
> "I, as a member of this community feel ashamed that we include scum like you
> in our daily net-dealings."
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> "Scum like you?" John, dude, do you even know Matt? I don't. That's why I
> don't insult him like that. Heck, even if I *did* know him, I wouldn't hurl
> an insult like that at him. Geez.
I was out of line here. I've had one of those months. Plus, on top of
that, I've been putting the finishing touches on a persuasive essay about
Afghanistan being the next Vietnam, a topic which I believe strongly about.
I've been in a debatable mood and a bit on the edge.
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> One thing I've learned a TON about even in the last couple events I've
> attended is not to judge an entire person only by his or her online persona.
> I've personally met a couple people here who I once had a severe dislike
> for. To my surprise, I ended up getting along great with them. I realized
> they were not the type of people who I thought they were based on their posts!
>
> So, for the sake of the more sensible here, chill, please.
This is why events like Brickfest are such great expreiences.
Unfortunately, I've never been to a Brickfest, nor have I met Matt. Thus,
the only evidence I was presented with was the content, and as someone else
said, the defiant tone of his message.
> Build something. Do something positive. Enjoy this wonderful hobby we all
> share. But please, please, please, don't jump to insult and criticse
> someone for the sake of claiming a moral high ground. Go ahead and hold
> your opinion of morality, but please don't throw it around here. Heck,
> throw it around here, who am I to tell you not to? But realize that some
> people get really, Really, REALLY irritated at it. In turn, that turns
> people off to participating here. And our community suffers.
>
> I wish I realized that sooner myself. Then I would have more time building
> under my belt and less time being a blowhard. I'm making up for it though,
> I post less, that means I build more.
>
> Build, have fun, chill, don't take yourself so seriously. If you absoultely
> have to get it out, please, for the sake of the community, take it somewhere
> else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Tim
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<Snip>]
Thank You, Tim.
Now back to our regularly schedualed LEGO, already in progress.
-John Rudy
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