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Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
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Wed, 29 May 2002 22:39:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

You don't have proof then!

Are you trying to *bait* me?

No, just expressing my view.

What possible "proof" could I provide that would change your mind?  None; a
useless exercise which I choose to ignore.


Here's another article which may explain our differences:
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/121/living/US_European_press_stand_divided_over_Israel_Palestinians+.shtml

I read it, it does not provide any "proof".

I never said it did.  I merely said it was an article which may explain our
differences.

However, the article is interesting. It compares the US and European Press
without saying who is right or wrong. Its main conclusion is that the
European Press is more pro-Palestinian than what you have in the USA. I
actually agree with that. However, I'm sure being more pro-Palestinian does
not make the press pro-Palestinian ? I?m sure you understand the difference.

I don't even know if what you just said makes sense.

I've read this quote (cut from the article), and others like it, a few times:

"European coverage is much more balanced and much less fixed on terrorism.
The lack of balance in [the US media's] approach ... comes to the fore when
one looks at European coverage, Jenin being a very good example. One can
look at the Knesset and the Israeli press and see far more criticism of the
Israeli government than there is here."

Do you agree with that John?

If by "balanced" you mean that the European press is more apt to present the
"human" side of the Palestinian plight, than I do.  The US *is* fixed on
terrorism, and for good reason.  Trying to sell the "human" side of those who
would terrorize is a hard sell in this country right now.

Even Arafat is calling for the end of Palestinian terror (if he is sincere,
which he could quite possibly not be).  It is really getting out of hand--
murder bombings almost daily?!

I'll tell you what needs to happen.  The *PA* needs to start moving on these
terrorists and start taking them out.  Why must the job be left to Israel?  It
is these attacks which deny Palestinian hopes of peace with Israel.  Why can't
the PA and Israel join together to end the terror? (Unless, of course, the PA
is *behind* it)

Israel cannot even *on principle* begin negotiations with the Palestinians if
it appears as if they are doing it to stop the terrorist attacks, because that
sends a very bad message to future terrorists-- that terror works.  The
Palestinian terrorists have painted Israel into a corner from which she cannot
and will not move-- it is up to the Palestinians to make the first move.

If the Palestinians had any guts, they'd fight against *their own* for peace
(if indeed this is what they really want).

-John



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  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Let’s start with a little more than your say-so. (...) There you go again, inferring all Palestinians are terrorists. The USA is "fixed on terrorism" as it has only just woken up to it. Much of Europe has been suffering from its effects since (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) No, just expressing my view. (...) However, the article is interesting. It compares the US and European Press without saying who is right or wrong. Its main conclusion is that the European Press is more pro-Palestinian than what you have in (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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