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In lugnet.general, Matt Hein writes:
> In lugnet.general, Matthew Hamand writes:
> > > Actually most Star Wars and other Science Fiction type vehicles use some
> > form of anti-gravity. Thus negating the the need for lifting surfaces like
> > wings. As for Star Wars stuff never sustaining itself in a proper atmosphere
> > . . . um, have you ever seen Star Wars?
>
> Anti-gravity boosters? Well, I suppose that could be a reality too,
> but depending on the atmosphere, It might need a different design if
> it isn't to fly down like a rock. The Jedi Starship has a really odd
> design, and I'm not sure how it could fly (unless it has a really *big*
> anti-grav booster on the back) And yes, I have seen SW, but as I said before,
> I'm not really a big fan of it. (too much syndication for me...)
Okay, really look at those old Space LEGO sets (which I LOVE!), their design
is WORSE for anything like atmosphere. Imagine the hell a Starfleet Voyager
would have landing on, say, Hoth?? HOW could a Galaxy Explorer carry enough
fuel to land and take off and manuver with them GIANT thrusters?? Wind
sheer would rip a Deep Freeze Defender to pieces!! If a Futron, M-Tron or
Blacktron ship is more structurally sound than a Snowspeeder, Imperial
Shuttle, X-Wing or even an A-Wing (speaking of LEGO design) I'll eat my
Harry Potter hat!!! I am an admitted recovering Star Wars-ohilic, but the
sci-fantasy stuff is deep in my veins and I LOVE to buy the LEGO Star Wars
sets because they are well designed, have great parts, multi-usefull
minifigures, great colors and price points. Admiting that product licenses
are not as fun as original designs, we are certainly getting good stuff from
the licenses that LEGO acquired. Heck, lots better that the "original"
designs from LEGO. Seems that inspiration is working overtime where it is
allowed at TLC. If you really want Space back you may have to buy on eBay
or build yourself (like Grand Admiral Muffinhead) from what is available
retail. You just need inspiriation.
<SNIP!>
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> Whatever happened to sets like Spyrius and Unitron with distinct story lines?
>
> What about town sets that don't snap together in two minutes, but instead
> take some time to get together?
>
> And where did those pirate sets ever sail off to?
>
> What about ever large complicated castle sets with trap doors, knights and
> the ever useful glow in the dark ghost and battering ram?
>
> And has anyone seen any bulk sets or 3033 tubs on the store shelves?
>
> Is lego trying to market imaginability, by only selling accessories like
> roofing elements and plates online, because it's difficult for
> alternative building to occur with bionicle or overspecialized sets.
Are you saying that Spyrius and Unitron were the cream of the crop, and had
good stories?? NOBODY can even remember Unitron's storyline (or liked the
sets, considering the losses LEGO took on them). Spyrius point in life was
to steal rockets, and parts from the other Space themes and sneak around
dark moons! Whoop-te-doo!!
Pirate sets sailed back to TRU last X-Mas and are comeing again to a
store/S@H near you. Ipmerial Guards/Soldiers however appear to have gone AWOL.
As for Castle, they seem to peacefully be teaching the magical arts to
students at Hogwarts nowadays, with the ocasional knight coming to visit.
Have a look around Brickshelf and you will see some AMAZING Castle creations
with nothing but parts accumulated in the lasxt 5 years releases.
No more 3033s (thank the powers I don't have to buy anymore of those now :),
but there's $25.00 Yoda's at Target and all kinds of Red Buckets showing up
at $9.99 and under with better parts selection.
I'll admitt that the retail selection would be better if it was broader, but
bulk accessories would be losers at Wal-Mart (and they run the show).
> Well, in their place, I see Bionicle, Jack Stone and Galidor. Aaagh!!!
AAAGH!!!! Stop scaring us!!
>
> >
> > Did you miss the bit where Jeff explained that the lack of toys on the
> > shelves is due to stores not replaceing their stock in anticipation of large
> > orders during the fall holiday season? I just think you hit some stores that
> > had been cleaned out. My local stores have all the available at retail
> > products including high end stuff like Yodas and RBRs.
>
> Nah, I go to the store about every few months to take a look, and I wasn't
> satisfied even during the holiday season. I knew beforehand that the local
> TRU wasn't 'cleaned out', and All I saw on the shelves were some misfit HP sets,
> a few of the new SW sets (not too shabby), and a bunch of no...Jack Stone!!!
> Bionicle also took up about 90 percent of the display though, so I bought
> Metal Gear Solid 2 and left that joint.
Yep, I saw that too, and I saw some great parts!! I cleand house on two
Wal-Marts and a Target. WHOO-HOOO!! Keep passin' on the LEGO and buyin'
yer action figures, 'cause I'm a cleanin' up the LEGO behind you!!! Thanks :)!!
> > I guess it wouldn't be LUGNET if there wasn't an active thread running about
> > how Lego is going down the tubes. This is a really unconstructive attitude.
>
> Well, perhaps this is deemed unconstructive to some because they either
> don't 'get' whats going on here, or they themselves are afraid to speak out
> against the lego company. Think of it this way, sometimes it is important to
> get your opinion out no matter how much someone thinks it sucks. I think if
> lego was to read up on how fans want intelligent design back in the models,
> perhaps they would give their old 'sure fire' concepts a chance, and strike
> gold. I think this pilgrimage into the bandwagon approach and action figures
> is not only diminishing lego's products, but their reputation as well. Think
> about it, the designs are going down the tubes (for SW and HP sets), and
> they throw in a bunch of 'specialized or unique' pieces to get us hooked.
> Why not
> throw in a cool design and a bunch of intelligent functions instead? I say
> to lego, rehire the designing staff!
LEGO is an old company, that does things the "smart" way. They will do what
they must to adapt and survive. While some things they are doing DO suck,
they have to try to hit that elusive kid nail on the head. Direct has
special power within and underneath the main company structure. If Direct
creates enough rumble, the company WILL look to them for answers. Direct is
fighting a winning battle on kids and AFOL's extra-buck purchases, it has
been spilling into retail (Tantive 4, Yoda, and those new buckets!!!)
Retail is going to get better. If they don't, then MEGA BLOCKS will win.
Special parts do not rule any but the WOW effect of finding something new
and what to do with it. You just have to build with an open mind, out of
the box LEGO sets stopped being interesting to me at around 9, now I'm 29
and I buy WAAAYY more LEGO to build my own stuff. I'd say we'll win, as
long as we buy what we can use where we can get it.
The rest of this post is <SNIPPED!!>
I'm not trying to do anything here but discuss, any flame will be directed
to the Official LUGNET Flame Chamber. Thank you, and have a pancake.
:o)
-Aaron-
Some member number like #279, but that was a lark.
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| (...) Anti-gravity boosters? Well, I suppose that could be a reality too, but depending on the atmosphere, It might need a different design if it isn't to fly down like a rock. The Jedi Starship has a really odd design, and I'm not sure how it could (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space, lugnet.castle, lugnet.town)
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