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Re: Say it ain't so...
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lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego
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Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:32:33 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Matt Hein writes:
In lugnet.general, Jon Palmer writes:
"Matt Hein" <Pyrokid17@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:H2ELFK.6IM@lugnet.com...

Well since you asked...
I'm not going to say you rant to much.  But I will say that I know you as
"that guy who only complains".  Sorry but the only posts I've ever seen you
make are just complaints about the product line or the company.  This is of
course your right, you can do it till the cows come home.  I'm not going to
tell you to stop at all.  But I honestly wonder if all of your demands were
met you would be contented or if you would find something new to complain
about.

Well, The only thing I ask for is to see lego castle and space back
on the frontline. If lego brought back just a new castle series, I
could tell you right now I would drop everything I have and go back
to my normal self (the non-complaining person) But no, I wouldn't
complain after that, I would have no reason to.

Perhaps you wouldn't, but don't be surprised if some people here don't
believe that.  I've skimmed most of this thread, and it sounds like a broken
record.  Some people whine about what LEGO should do.  Other people counter
them, but are unsuccessful in explaining the logic behind a business's
actions.  Its not because these people don't write good explanations, its
because the whiners don't want to listen to them.  I was being sarcastic on
one level, but if you really think about it I wasn't kidding when I said
this thread belongs in lugnet.dear-lego.waaaaahhhhh or
lugnet.off-topic.baseless-speculation.

I don't really fault you for it, because I used to think exactly how you do.
I'm just as guilty of posts like this, which now I consider impotent
crusades against good business sense.  I came around when a few people
guided me and informed me of the way things are, and now I understand.  I'm
a student, like yourself, with no formal business training.  I had a
one-track mind about the "way LEGO should be" until someone explained to me
the way LEGO is and why.

I personally think you should just enjoy the LEGO you already own and
utilize the bounty of cool parts that are in fact available right now.

Yeah, maybe you're right about that, waiting a few years for something
new is a bit out of my league though, but I'll try (to some extent)

Is LEGO that important that you can't wait years for things to change in the
product line?  Last time I checked, there's an incredible range of
functional parts out right now in the System scale lines - and for Castle
fans it really is the golden age, with a mix of classic castles and Harry
Potter to draw parts from.  Even Town/Train and Space fans at least can draw
immense value from those sets, for the Gray and other off color and unique
parts in them.  So, I echo Jon's sentiment - go build and get creative.

My take on this whole thread and the 'we need to petition LEGO' idea is
this: impotent whining.  I'm sorry, but that's what it is.  You can't
honestly expect a multi-billion dollar corporation to change the direction
of its product line simply because a handful of people signed an online
petition.

You also can't assume on their market and assert it as truth when you have
not done any solid research of your own.  LEGO spends exorbitant amounts of
money each year to do market research which tells them what products they
should make for which markets.  You and others here come along and attempt
to debunk it with a few sentences (and NO hard data), insist you are right
and insist they bow to your demands.  How silly is that?

Even sillier than that is watching this thread drag on and on and on.  The
ones who talk sense are ignored, because the rabid fans on a blind crusade
don't want to know the truth.  Like a culmination of everything our hideous
pop culture stands for, these people want it their way and only their way,
right away, no questions asked.  And they won't shut up until they get it.

As for my personal opinion on the products... I understand the reason for
Jack Stone's existance - its for a younger age market.  I really can't stand
Galidor myself, and I hope it goes away.  If my feelings are proven wrong
though, and Galidor is a success, more power to LEGO for making a smart
move.  For everything else, LEGO is parts.  Don't rely on sets, but look at
what they come with and imagine what you can do with them.  And relax, this
*is* just a toy afterall.

-Tim

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Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Say it ain't so...
 
(...) Maybe so, I'm going to stop complaining right now, since I'm getting this feeling that I've ticked a bunch of people off. (...) Hmm...why don't you send me an email or something about this. (...) No, lego isn't really such a large part or my (...) (22 years ago, 14-Sep-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
  Re: Say it ain't so...
 
(...) I never said anywhere that I had to have things my way and I wouldn't shut up until I got it, and neither did anyone else. (...) Wasssup Tim, While your probably right about Jack Stone, couldn't Lego just branch off of Lego and make Lego Jr. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Sep-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
  Re: Say it ain't so...
 
(...) UH HUH HUH HUH HUH he thed "impotent" HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH thatth khool! Seriously, Parts is parts, and I agree with you about "see the cool in what's there." The day TLC or anyone tells me what I have to make with pieces from a (...) (22 years ago, 16-Sep-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

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  Re: Say it ain't so...
 
(...) Well, The only thing I ask for is to see lego castle and space back on the frontline. If lego brought back just a new castle series, I could tell you right now I would drop everything I have and go back to my normal self (the non-complaining (...) (22 years ago, 14-Sep-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space, lugnet.castle, lugnet.town)

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