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  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) Kevin, your doing JUST FINE. any time you want to join us for an rtl event, you are more than welcome. Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) Still trying to get a clear answer to a simple question..... Are you saying that *any* message is fine for step 3? When you say "send back the move number" are you meaning the move we just received, or the move we rapidly predict with our 1750 (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) That is one way to solve it. A second way is to have a total of 3 RCX's. One for running the LEGO hardware, and one for each program. You turn off the one you don't want to use depending on if you go first or second. Have you figured out *why* (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: And now something completely different...
 
In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno wrote: snip (...) Thanks Chris! You met the friend--John. He came to a few rtl competitons to witness the greatness that is LEGO 'bot building... (URL) When I see this pic, I' min a zone not unlike the one (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) So, does that mean (if you were using a robot) you would have to switch RCXs between games, depending on if you went first or second? :) (...) That's true. But, given the UI that I have set-up in MY RCX, it is required. Just send back the move (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: And now something completely different...
 
(...) I was "enthused" because even now, i still can not believe that two gemokes (in italian/english - pronounced ja - moke's) got up one day and said: "hey (daves friend)" "ya dave" "lets have a boo, and see if we can build a submarine" "ya" AND (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: And bringing it back to LEGO (and Space!)
 
(...) <snip> D'oh!! Wrong link!!! (URL) me! (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.space)
 
  And bringing it back to LEGO (and Space!)
 
More pictures whilst sorting, and I decided to repost a *very* old web page of mine--it was the original reason I purchased a digital camera 6 years ago... (URL) few notes: All these sets are right from the directions, except the little modified (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.space)
 
  And now something completely different...
 
Whilst perusing some of my old picture CD's (digital pics taken by me), I was inspired to update a particular corner of my web site. (URL) know at one time Chris was pretty enthused about it, but the pictures I had up on my site were very few adn (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) Steve, First things first, I have one program for player 0, and a second program for player 1. I cannot play both games with the same program. I'm sure you'll figure out why. There is no real need for steps 3 or 5 (steps 4 and 6 provide the (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) Or, two robots, one rope, first to the top wins. Talk about the possibilities for an "elimination" style competition - perhaps the rope should dangle over a bunch of pillows, or a deep box of styrofoam peanuts... (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) I'll run another marble sorting if the desire is ther (and the leaders approve) I think, though, the rope climbing is a Good Thing(tm). Just so I get more excercise, I'd say that the 4x4 arena should be there, that the 'bots start in the (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) snip (...) ya ya, what ever, MR. Famous. Mr. I'm-off-to-europe-to...autographs mr. look at me, I'm paid to NOT enter RTL games... bah Chris (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) The rope climbing sounds interesting... I could try it. However, I always up for a "marble sorting/block stacking/whatever competition." Maybe enter both! And I'll really, really try to be there this time! -Greg (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: you know what would be cool....
 
(...) Here you go: (2 URLs) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: you know what would be cool....
 
(...) the point, is that if you set up the page and let people know what we have sent you, the world can figure out what to change. if you sent me your code, and it only needs 8 - 46, then the person/programmer can modify the code to listen for (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) How about 9" cube? No special reason - just want to make it a bit easier. ;) (...) With a 12 foot height we need to able to lower the rope remotely i.e. pulley at the top. Since most of the time the bots will get stuck up there, having people (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: you know what would be cool....
 
(...) I actually haven't tested either of these, yet. You said the BS code doesn't send the right IR messages (as listed in the above message), and Michael's .exe won't download to an RCX. :) Noone's posted anything that will work. I think both (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  you know what would be cool....
 
if Steve H actually came through and did what he said here: (URL) here: (URL) know ~I~ sent him a zip file of v1.1 of the Team BS code. Michael sent steve HIS code.... funny how steve has not offered his code, posted a lint to a page or... (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: pics are up
 
(...) I didn't have a 'bot, however, I did bring a camera, and showed up because of the many guests from out of town. The room was packed, which I thought was really cool, and the majority of the room was participants and their spectators, thought (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Could be the friggin fraggin corporate firewall...
 
(...) UTCNS was having trouble with our outbound connection today. Once in a while UTCNS will lose outward connectivity for a few minutes. Calum (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) HollyNorth sells 100" of #8 black (or white) sash cord for about $15 at the next dinner I can dole our 10' lengths of the stuff at cost. (...) I'm against any knots. -- Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in 'platitude-quoting (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: pics are up
 
(...) Somehow that 'bot reminded me of some rtlT organizer who used to show up with these crazy contraptions and there were spectators that would be overheard remarking, "Hey Mister!" Actually, that 'bot performed better than most of those "Hey (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: pics are up
 
tell me about the bot pic# P010514.jpg it looks like it has some kind of spinning wheel on the side. Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Could be the friggin fraggin corporate firewall...
 
(...) Doesn't work from here either - get a "connection timed out" to peach. (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Could be the friggin fraggin corporate firewall...
 
but I don't think so... www.rtltoronto.org or peach.....whatever.whatever doesn't work! (neither does peach.whatever/tsangc) Anyway, can't access rtlToronto's home page, or Calums page... Grr!! Dave K (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) #include <sys/lnp.h> // I think ... send_msg(move+1); // number from 1-7 ... if (lnp_rcx_message>0) { move = lnp_rcx_message; clear_msg(); } (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) Yeah, is there a crash course page on sending standard IR messages from brickOS? Anyways, I've posted my logic. It takes about 6-7 seconds to make the decisions on a brick (with the sensor polling decreased -- see an old robotics.rcx.legos (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  More RTL 15 Pics...
 
They are biased to marble sorting... Some of C4. (URL) Dave (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  pics are up
 
pics taken by me, even though there aren't many and they basically focus on the marble sorting, can be found here: (URL) to all who made the marble sorting fun, from those I know, like Dave, Rob, Ivan, to new friends like Richard, Andrew, Tony, and (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: um. no.
 
(...) Unreal. I had a seizure just watching the video :) Its unbelievable how fast that thing goes. Damn I wish I could be doing something like that at work. *Oh well* Thanks for the link, Rob (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) Actually, I couldn't be more happy with my decision to forego C4. I knew I was in way over my head. I had a lot of fun entering my silly marble robot on Saturday. Probably the most fun I've had at a competition yet. Thanks for running the game (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) Where can one 15' of cotton sash cord? I checked Canadian Tire, Home Depot, even Walmart with absolutely no luck (only poly rope at all of them) I did find 100m package at my local Home Hardware...but they wouldn't sell just a piece, and I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Great News!!!!
 
(...) I thought that was what a rtlToronto meeting *was*... <ducking now> (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) This is recommended. (...) Yes. Standard Mindstorms IR messages. (0-255) (...) Yes, You can skip this step. But then it won't work. This is the protocol. (...) Yes, You can skip this step. But then it won't work. This is the protocol. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) <snip> (...) Chris, Feel free to post v1.1. It is just pomakis code with no changes. Kevin (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
I like this idea, and will probably attempt to build a robot. (...) From the department of redundancy department... But seriously, 3 feet sounds good. (...) None, other than itself. (...) None. Just remember that the more RCXen you have, the heavier (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ - Code Only
 
(...) I can see a few soloutions: 1 on board UI. run prg slot 1 or 2 depending on who goes first. for OTHER os's then you can have an ON BOARD UI, press view, or prg. to start. 2. beam a "message" to each brick. 1 or 2. 3. put a touch sensor on each (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  C$ - Code Only
 
Here's a quick look at the interface for a code-only C$ game. 1) There must be some method to tell you code if it's going first or second. 2) When it's your turn, calculate a move, then send an IR message which indicates the column number (1-7) of (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Great News!!!!
 
(...) AHh, but the issue was that, iirc, (and maybe I dont), 2000 *wasn't* a leap year--but I could be wrong on that Lemmee go check 2000 calendars... D'oh! My bad! I once again have a faulty recollection! Not unheard of. And I stand corrected. (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Great News!!!!
 
(...) You mean besides the one four years ago? Yes, indeed, 2000 was a leap year. Everyone knows that a year that's divisible by 4 is a leap year (well, barring really young kids and such). Lots of people also know that you end up with a few extra (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) Sounds like fun! (...) What? You think I'm a dink? (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Great News!!!!
 
Dinner this month (if there is one, I'll wait for official word from the leaders...) is... (wait for it...) Friday the 13th!!!!!! Woot! This coming on the same February with a leap day in it, and the first leap year in 8 years!!!! Ooooohhhh, the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) In defence of Rob, he showed up for Marble Sorting (or hoarding... whatever). In defence of me, I've let the leaders know when I was going to be involved, or not going to be involved, in a competition well before hand. Don't 'dumb' things down (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Revised topo map for train6m?
 
(...) The date? April 18th... The place?? THe convention Center!! Be There!!!! You'll have the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge!!!!! Eh, is a train show... I'll have the entire back part filled with modules, baseplates and track. Not too (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) When you say the whole robot... never mind. I think that's pretty clear. :) (...) ... (...) This suggestion has already been added to the "Rob, Matthias, Greg" pile, right? (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ -- its all over
 
(...) new sig line? maybe. (...) I've been thinking there were 12, but you actually listed 14 robots below... (...) The first thing that seemed to slip the minds of most people is that one of the goals of these rtl events is to build a robot that (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Revised topo map for train6m?
 
(...) Now that C$ is done I'm putting all my Lego concentration on Train. I'll be going over the layout and designs this week. Dave, what's the date in April we are aiming for? We'll need to have a roll call to see if all the builders can make it. (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) Just a suggestion from an 'outsider' (non-RTL person) - how about robots that have to climb the rope, then back down to the ground, and back to their starting spot, or to a common "finish line"? This would make multiple challenges: Find the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The NEXT game.
 
(...) Anything anyone wants will be flat out ignored. Sick of doing games where the requestor doesn't show the hell up (Rob, Matthias, Greg :). (...) I've been dying to do a rope/over our heads game for a long long time. LEAVE NO PART OF YOUR ROBOT (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) Steve, I REALLY like this idea. its VERY geeky, and was somthing i wanted to do for a dinner, but was quickly shot down by Calum saying it was too geeky. (the same calum who spends his off hours makeing digital picture frames, mp3 players for (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  The NEXT game.
 
In conversations that started off with Bruce, and expanded to a few of us at the end of the night.... I think we have a working game to be argued about here. our criteria. 1. Chris does not want to hump the 8x8' play field anywhere 2. Bruce does (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  your OLD connect four game boards
 
Will be accepted for donation to a Children's day care in Toronto. Kate said that her Daycare will take them off your hands, if you don't ever want to see those stupid checkers, and yellow boards again. it turns out that kids are very hard on these (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  C$ -- its all over
 
What a whirlwind of a day. I've been busy with personal commitments for the remainder of the week, so have not had a chance to talk about C$.. with that said.... this is how the final four breaks down: Steve the guy we all Love to hate, came in (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Revised topo map for train6m?
 
(...) maps for (...) "Topo" I remember as being this old ugly "robot" offered in like the 70's or 80's. It had two wheels at weird angles which looked silly, and a giant octagonal head. :) (...) 2010 (...) I have so many favourite lines from that (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Revised topo map for train6m?
 
Hey guys, Now that I've let Mario down yet another time, is someone creating topo maps for train6m? I want to start thinking about my two modules. Calum PS-Iain brought over 2010. 2001 is the classic and also my favourite, but 2010 is a good film on (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  It's not what you kow, it's who you know...
 
So a while back I lamented right here in this very group about the outright killing of an RCX by yours truly... Well, I bring it to rtl15, where one may find very intelligent blokes who may know something about electronics and such related stuff... (...) (21 years ago, 2-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) Recursion. 5 plys. The heuristic board analysis was written in native H8/300 assembler. (...) Yeah... I was so concerned about the logic that I completely lost sight of the mechanical side of it. (...) <members.lycos.co.uk...aniac.exe> Mike (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) I think there were several game engines, but a very small number of working robots. (I'm sure there will be more posted later) I know several people (including myself) are interested to see how all the software stacks up, so I'd like to create (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) I was able to get each book entry down to 12 bytes. I mean 42 entries on the board by two bits, plus at least three bits for where to drop was the best I could come up with... That is 87 bits which could be packed into 11 bytes, but the (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Fun
 
(...) Thanks Steve, it was worth a shot and lots of fun. Did we at least make a respectable showing? Want to share techniques and struggles on the software side? Mine came together too late. In the end I had to forgo QuiteC and use brickOS, thus (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Fun
 
It sounds like I'm one of the few people who slept on Friday night. :) I had a good time at rtl 15. So did Heather. Her 3rd place marble robot was the first 'bot (can I use that word here?) she's designed, built, and programmed completely by (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  rtlT15 Wrap-up...
 
Well, I for one, beyond being completely and utterly hosed (a Canuck phrase meinging totally exhausted, among other things, translated for my Amwerican visiting friends :)), had a great time! It was great to see the wonderful turnout. The 'bots were (...) (21 years ago, 1-Feb-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) I think so. I stopped at 2:00 AM. Time to catch up on real life. (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
Do I win the "Up The Latest Before an RTL Event" Award? Ivan "03:30am" - Sleep is for the weak (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) Well, I'm done forthe evening... setting alarm for 7:30--should give me enuf time to shower,grab a bite and hit the road to be in the Big Smoke for 9 a.m.... Feels like I'm forgetting something, though.... I'll remember halfay to Toronto. Dave (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) Well, it's nice to know somebody else is up at this hour. 'Course, you're playing with LEGO, while I'm trying to convince a one-week-old she's tired, but it's still nice to have company. Have a good time later today, everyone. May the best (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) move around.... big whoop!!! try alpha beta pruning, and THEN we'll talk. :) Chris (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) sure program 1 is done--marbles getting sorted nicely--just have to get the thing to move around now (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
you are going to be there at 9 am right? (...) -- Chris "It is a very clever strategy IMHO, and I applaud Chris for thinking of it." K.C. (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: sooo sleepy....
 
(...) 9:40 p.m. and the robit is built. Not even tested yet, but built nonetheless. All the component parts are functioning smoothly, and now comes the programming. Ahhhh, programming... lovely. No sleep tonite Dave K (21 years ago, 31-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
(...) heh, what makes you say what? we're almost at Niagra Falls, so I figure we have about 90 more miles to go, or so. (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  sooo sleepy....
 
Must.... continue.... making.. robot... better... Chris (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
Now it's 3 p.m. and I've completed the first rendition of the 'bot. Now will come my usual 'rip it apart and rebuild from the bottom up, taking out all non-essential artifacts that creep into the 'bot with repeated trials...' I haven't even started (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: rules question:
 
(...) Mine plays a song when it wins or loses. Like, a different song for each... but it's pretty obvious... it would we pretty hard to win or lose by accident. Mike *who's busy ironing out a mechanical failure in the vertical axis* (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: rules question:
 
(...) ATTENTION RALPH and JOHN G. (the american) I'll have you know my LAST robot, for rice picking was a HUGE success, AS WELL, the phrase "hey Mr." was NEVER ONCE uttered. ~~~!!! IN FACT !!!!~~~~ the kids so much liked one of my demo robots that (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  RE: rules question:
 
(...) Hey mister, you're robot doesn't suck as much as the last one! (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: rules question:
 
(...) Excellent. That will save a few hours. Derek (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: rules question:
 
(...) Wait a second! An rtltoronto post that didn't insult someone? Is that even allowed in this group? What is this world coming to? I would have guessed the reply would have been something like this: "No, don't bother. If some how, some way, you (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: rules question:
 
(...) No, don't bother. If you won, we'll all realize that. Calum (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  rules question:
 
I've been assured that the rules do not say that a robot has to announce a win or lose. when I play steve, and drop in the winning chip...... then what? that's it. game over?? no really??? I want to find out if I need to put in the code that (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: lost work hours
 
(...) really??? (quizzical look) why Larry, what ever do yo mean? It would appear very straight forward to me. Kevin thought it was a good idea. BS, Beat steve, what else could it be? anyone have any clue? should I ask Terry. he seems to find (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: lost work hours
 
(...) The audience may not feel that those initials stand for that particular meaning, of course.. (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: lost work hours
 
(...) Jeff, let me explain about the name team BS. its something Kevin and I came up. We feel that B S should stand for Beat Steve. Chris (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: lost work hours
 
(...) Wow, Chris when do you start playing for Bruce's team? Jeff VW (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
(...) The key is to make sure your card matches one or more symbols. I find that "PLUS System" or "Cirrus" are pretty standard. These are usually on MOST ATM's in Southern Ontario (Greater Toronto Area, etc.) Some banks are open on Saturday, (but (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
(...) (I bet those guys have some script watching this group so when people post it gets relayed to some Hiptop or something :) The way we usually do it is just to walk up to an credit card, Plus System or Interac compatible ATM and withdraw money. (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Board - Plate interface
 
(...) Okay, glad I checked. I got it fixed now so that there's a 'track' that I lay down on the common area. It only joins with about 10 studs, so it's like two seconds to put on. I know we had a discussion at one point about not sitting there (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  RE: um. no.
 
Ian, Clearly you are interested in this kind of thing. If you like, I can take you through our plant where they make PCBs for our fire alarm product. It's pretty cool to watch the whole process of board stuffing, and the solder wave process is neat (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: lost work hours
 
(...) steve you are probably on the road for the long drive, so you will not be able to see this.... as of right NOW, I've dropped over 100 chips about 10 of them are miss. AND I have the rest of the day to work on it. Chris Team BS (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
(...) Well, that was a long enuf session for me--it's after 6 a.m. and I need a nappy... (...) This I do not know. I hardly ever leave Ontario. (...) Dave K -"That Steve H! Doer of good things where LEGO robots are concerned..." Dave K, 6 a.m. the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Brilliant Idea....
 
Quoting David Koudys <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca>: (...) I am, but the boys collapsed after a long night of finger blistering brick laying. as for TV - I just put the Family Guy DVD in and let it play. Good thing *I* can sleep in the car. See you all (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Brilliant Idea....
 
So who else is awake right now? Watching Mystery, Alaska on City and building a 'bot at 3 a.m.... EH, maybe I'll see what's on the other channels... Ahhh... bikini babes selling something. Baah! Back to hockey. Dave K (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Arena painted and gtg
 
(...) Okay, I really don't get it. Like, I can't find anything borderline funny in those statements at all. And I can think of them all. I'm the kind of person who says "Hello!" at the slightest funny thing. And it's not registering me at all. Must (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ chip count.
 
(...) You need 21 of each. My board came with one extra red and two extra black. Derek (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: C$ chip count.
 
(...) My set came with 22 red and 21 black. That's one more chip than will actually fit in the board. (Can you tell I've had the same problem?) - Chris. (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  C$ chip count.
 
I cant tell how many times I've dropped chips on the floor. how many of each colour comes in a NEW game? Chris (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Amazing train station
 
(...) see (URL) where the creator discusses it in a bit more depth. (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Arena painted and gtg
 
(...) ROFLOL Sorry about that, It's just that the sentence is soooo perfect for the "joke", I couldn't keep from underlining it... again.... and again....... and again......... "it started moving on its own" Mwahahahaha! "I decided to sit back to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: um. no.
 
(...) Iain, you DO exist. I assure you. now sit down, and listen to me. S N A P O U T OF I T !!!! 13/pcs /second is no bid deal. all that stuff was SMT. now, lets go back to my Project X robot. board scan in 5 seconds, and that left 15 to move (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)


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