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Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Sat, 18 Dec 1999 01:05:46 GMT
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
All right.  You have this artist friend.  She paints things.  She invites
you and fifty other people over for a housewarming party.  Great party,
lots of fun, lots of neat things going on.  She's got a couple of her
latest paintings up on display, even.

Now there's this guy there, he gets kind of sauced, and he wanders into
your friend's studio where she works on new ideas.  He flips on the light,
puts down his drink, and sees a bunch of white sheets covering what
obviously are stretched canvases -- works in progress.  Biting his finger,
he shuts the door to the studio (remaining inside), and lifts each of the
sheets to get a sneak peek at the works in progress.  Turns out they're
actually pretty much completed, and scheduled to be put on exhibit in a
few weeks.  But he sneaks some good hard peeks, and he remembers what he
sees.

I don't see how this corresponds.

1. She didn't invite people over specifically to see her paintings, she
   invited them to housewarming which happened to display a few paintings.
   On the other hand, the entire purpose of Lego's web site is to serve
   documents.

2. The studio is a distinctly different environment from where the rest of
   the part is. He has to flip on a light, etc. By contrast, there is no
   technical distinction between URLs which happen to have links to them,
   and those which don't. If the "studio" images were on port 81, or on a
   different host, then this _might_ apply.

   Puts down his drink? Bites his finger? Shuts the door? Lifts the sheets?
   None of this is required to view something at a URL, regardless of
   whether there's a link to it.

3. This guy seems to think he's doing something wrong. When I'm looking at
   images served from a public web server, I'm doing it guilt-free. What's
   the difference? Well, the things in point 1 & 2 are apparently obvious to
   him. And I think they'd be obvious to anyone above a certain very basic
   level of knowledge of social norms. By the same token, the concept that
   there might be something wrong with looking at an image to which there
   isn't a readily-obvious hyperlink is ludicrous to (I think I'm safe in
   saying this) a vast majority of those with a basic level of knowledge of
   the World Wide Web.

Now, what's the analysis of that?

[analysis questions snipped because given the above, I don't think they're
relevant.]


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Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
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(...) Hmm, maybe that's the heart of the controversy right there! I dunno about the net population at large, but I'd certainly experience guilt feelings if I summoned up an image to which there was no readily- obvious hyperlink, because I'd assume (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) All right. You have this artist friend. She paints things. She invites you and fifty other people over for a housewarming party. Great party, lots of fun, lots of neat things going on. She's got a couple of her latest paintings up on display, (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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