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(...) Good choice, God. <snip> (...) That is a very bizarre way for an all-powerful being to go about getting across a message when it would be far simpler, and presumably far more effective for him to just give it to people directly without some (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If one enjoys it? ;) I liked this [from OutSmart] (URL) I think the most absurd holding in the opinion is the majoritys conclusion that the Anti-Sodomy Statute does not distinguish persons by their sexual orientation. Indeed, the majority (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's yet another piece of progressive action from our Texas-based administration: (URL) the important bit, in case the article's been moved to a members-only pay archive: Critics Say Government Deleted Web Site Material to Push Abstinence (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And didn't I hear an interesting tid-bit on the radio this weekend, that judges in Taiwan (or somewhere) have ruled that oral sex is *not* considered sex at all--I believe this was in regard to 'committing adultery'. As it stands, if your (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read this as well, and I couldn't agree with Larry more--the gov't should stay out of the bedrooms(1) of consenting adults. Dave K (1) euphemism for 'lives' in this particular case (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's just plain medieval. I particularly like the fact that progressive Texas forbids "deviate sexual intercourse with another individual of the same sex." What, according to Texas law, would constitute non-deviant sexual intercourse with (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) hope the Supremes reverse their 1986 thinking... government has no business legislating behaviour between/among consenting adults. (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I almost shudder to mention this, since the underlying debate is serious and highly charged, but a CNN article about race and affirmative action included a really inopportune misprint, in grand Amos-n-Andy style: "At issue is whether race be used as (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Even the 'uncivilized world' has went metric ;) The USA remains the only developed nation not to use the metric system. The costs of this are quite high as it means that any exported products have to be dual labelled. However, one should not (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree-- it *can* give your life meaning to hope. But how about hoping in Santa Claus? Should we? Better yet, let's hope for some *NON* christian afterlife! If the ends justify the means (fulfillment of life justified by being Christian), (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which brings up the very discussion my friends and I have had for years at around wvery election-time--who do you vote for? Do you vote for the guy who is going to be good for your society, but not probaby good for you 'cause he'll tax you (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Too many failed Mars probes: it was the Mars Climate Orbiter that had the failed metric/english measurements. (URL) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sez Karl Rove: "As people do better [financially], they start voting like Republicans... ...unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing." (...) Dave! (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are describing the same problem, not a different one. (...) As I recall, they simply lost contact. Looking around so we don't have to depend on faulty memory....aha: (URL) ya go! -->Bruce<-- (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought the Mars Observer had a different problem, as in the parts were built by different companies that didn't communicate clearly, and that the 'finished' product wasn't tested as a unit--the problem happened something like this-- the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) John said many things in this very post that basically fit my idea as to what being a Christian is all about, and how I try to approach my Christian life. Nicely done, John! Dave K. As an (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Someone please correct me if I have this wrong, but I vaguely remember something about Thomas Jefferson being largely responsible for rejecting the metric system in this country - he had his own pet way of determing what should be a meter that (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) God has chosen to have His message spread by a bunch of incompetant, sinful, *human* followers. I'll certainly give you that. Christians do not see eye to eye on much, especially on topics such as evangelism. It really can be (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) which the metric system, and the flaws therein, is quickly discussed via a book review. Going beyond the mistooks that the system is based on, it still is the way to go! Hurry up you Americans and catch up with the 'civilized world'! ;) Dave (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I had the spelling wrong, and the attribution. The name I was aiming for is Apollonius of Tyana. And here are a few others: Pythagoras (who could bilocate, by the way) Simon Ben Kochba Empedocles Shabbetai Tzevi Orpheus Simon Magus Sun (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. (...) No, I'm not doing the Bible justice. We're agreed on that. The only way to truly do the Bible justice is to read the whole thing cover to cover. But anytime someone presets only *some* Bible stories, they have their own reasons (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Socrates was, for example, a Son of God, though I understand that that's not quite what you meant. (Socrates was more moral than Jesus, however). Off the top of my head the other big one I can think of is Appollonius of Tyre, whose name I may (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure it was the divine manifestation to which the 'uniqueness' was referring, but (as I took it) Christianity itself. IE that it is Christianity that is unique, with a unique message. Not the Jesus-being-the-son-of-God bit. I could be (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to see your cites. Christianity offers a few unique twists. One which I believe is unique is the "fully human, fully divine" status of Jesus, and his fulfillment of OT biblical prophesy. I also am not aware of any God-incarnate (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There are any number of self-contradictory assertions inherent in the Christian faith with which one could take issue, but this is the big one that needs to be exorcised whenever it's uttered. The whole God-incarnate-here-to-redeem-us theme is (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know the feeling about which you speak-- I was just trying to upwrap it and try and see *why* that is actually a comfort. For me, it boils down to a reassurance that we are not crazy, that we are not completely wacked on an issue, which (...) (23 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's the trick. I don't believe that the concept of objective morality makes any sense (that things or actions can be objectively good, bad, right, or wrong). Hence the difficulty in proving that something like slavery is objectively evil. I (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Brendan Powell Smith writes: <snip one of the better posts around here lately> Hey Rev, I think you're on to something with your reasoning that if it's ok to have missionaries in the pro christian direction it's just as (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't feel it is is necessary to change everyone to my point of view, and in fact, it wouldn't particularly bother me if no one's religious views were ever changed by The Brick Testament. It would at best be a small comfort to know that (...) (23 years ago, 1-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't deny that they seem silly *to you* and, as I mentioned before, that is fine, but I'm still wondering what the movitation is that makes you feel it necessary to change everyone to your POV-- to perhaps feel better about your own (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Does everyone in Isreal support the occupation of the West Bank? Does the majority even do so? (...) When Shamir ended his term as PM this is what he had to say: "It pains me greatly that in the coming four years I will not be able to expand (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree that Sinai is a large lump of land. However, it was [reluctantly] handed back to *Egypt* - not the *Palestinians*. (...) Barak's offer was empty (it had to be ratified in a referendum). He knew Arafat could not accept it. Even so, what (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, Take a look at the current fuss. Look at what started it. You should hang your head in shame rather that cause more fuss. It may be a cultural thing, but personally I think sniggering and name-calling is far more anti-social than my alleged (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good analysis, Bruce, but it's not enough that just you ignore him, or that just I ignore him. For off-topic.debate to truly be enjoyable, it's necessary that EVERYONE ignore him, and manage to do so consistently. This is necessary because if (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I work in a Nordic company, and my experience is that people from Norway have an advatage when speaking in Scandinavian forums: They can understand both Swedish and Danish. Danes, on the other hand, can usually not understand the other (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You're right: danish must be the most mumbled language in the world.... Duq "Tobbe Arnesson" <StPnAtM@lotek.nu> wrote in message news:H6Bsos.JpL@lugnet.com... (...) hear it (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A lot of what I wrote in my last post was aimed at getting you to look at this situation from my prespective. In essence, the question was, what would you do if it was *you* who were convinced that the religion of everyone around you was (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, Brendan isn't criticizing beliefs. He's criticizing the Bible, a book which has some rather bizzare things in it, and a lot of inconsistencies. (...) So it's wrong to point out inconsistencies in books? The same book that some people in (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, therein lies part of your problem-- you cannot ever really assert this. (...) Perhaps, but in the guise of holding them yourself? You mention Ministers contacting you about wanting to use the BT for Sunday school, etc. Do you really (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Back already? (...) Don't be obtuse-- explain it in light of your above accusation. (...) Who indeed. It merely exemplifies the need for Israel to be negogiating with those who actually desire peace instead of seeking more step in the (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *Everyone* in the PA??? (...) I don't deny that there are extremist Israelis who hold this view, but the overwhelming majority *DO NOT*, and thus your statement is patently false and egregiously provocative. Anyone who really believes in (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have already! (...) Who wrecked Oslo / Oslo II? Why? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? I suggest you take your tape measure and head over to the Sinai Pennisula and start taking measurements... (...) Then explain the Camp David Agreement. Israel *can* be reasonable, *does* want peace, and have *proven* this. The PA is (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Defend your allogation. About what "power" specifically are you speaking, or was it merely a Liberal throw-away? -John (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for your rather disruptive input, but I've no intention of joining in your mudslinging. [BTW: I'm not anti-American, I'm pro-justice - understand the difference]. (...) How ironic; I note you have chosen to sling mud rather than address (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heck, I ignore Scott, but judging by the flurry of responses, he won't do me the same favor. He wants and craves attention. Ignoring him is still the best option. He'll even pick up on long-distance, unstated twitting of his hypocritical (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The problem I have with this line of thinking is that everyone (here in the US anyway) seems way too sensitive to these sorts of things. I actually disagree with your thinking that there is nothing wrong with our overly PC approach to things. (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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We all need to respond to the issues raised, rather that insult each other. How come it's so busy here, I thought it was Thanksgiving yesterday? Scott A (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And it was so nice in here lately--things were debated, discussions happened, and there was almost a zen-like, albeit debatable discussions, in the land. Oh well, c'est la vie! Dave K. (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't agree with your view. The Israelis gave up a very small part of the land they stole a few decades ago - its legal owners want all of it back. In order to keep it, the Israelis [in the form of the rather heroic IDF] oppress all manner (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it rest. It's rather ironic that you don't see the irony in what you are saying. This sort stuff should be taken to e-mail. (...) Synopsis: You've admitted I was correct, and you were wrong. Furthermore; you're not happy about it. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Hear Hear! If people cannot undergo scrutiny of their belief system, then there is something wrong. The difference b/w scrutiny and all-out harassment is hard to determine, but (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To be honest I wish you wouldn't post on LUGNET(tm) at all, you're somewhere between extremely low value add, and significant negative value add. Once in a while you come up with an outside cite of some limited value but by and large your own (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Quoting Scott A <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com>: (...) So how is this different than Israel, Scott? The Israelies already gave up some land. It is extremists in the PA (both elected and unelected) who are currently dragging their heels, and fanning the (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I find that comment a little disingenuous. To be honest, I wish you would just ignore me. (...) As I said, "I dont think I have ever made any link between the IRA and American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are] (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've no problem with that. The problem is that over half of the population of NI are unionists. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, more denial from you. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sigh* Even the PA recognises their right to exist. The Israeli agenda is land theft. Anyone who really believes in freedom [as opposed to self interest] would understand that. (...) What about the war criminals in Israel? What should happen (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *sigh* Even the PA recognises their right to exist. The Israeli agenda is land theft. Anyone who really believes in freedom [as opposed to self interest] would understand that. (...) What about the war criminals in Israel? What should happen (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's say for a moment that what Christians believe in *is* silly. Would it then be worthwhile to help show them this? Is it worthwhile in general to discredit other people's silly beliefs, even when they are very much convinced of these silly (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Cool, I had no idea I could translate Danish :) Must be 'cause I mostly hear it spoken and I can hardly hear what they say. Same goes with sothern Swedes (Skåningar). (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Palestinian and Isrealis, and the Irish and the English need to try and realize that their best course of action is negotiation and compromise. Effectively, though, this means that Isrealis need to give up some land, and the English need (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please note that Brendan said he was raised Christian. I would also argue that almost everyone in the US is sufficiently affected by Christianity to have sufficient reason to question it. I would also argue that if a religion can not withstand (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not really. England took Ireland by force. Not much else to say. (...) The evidence certainly seems to suggest that that is not the case in Northern Ireland. (...) There is no easy answer, especially when such a high level of animosity has (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol Thank you for lumping together all of the groups that it is politically correct to bash! "White-christian-right"??? What "power"?? What the heck are you talking about? More racism? -John (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm going to jump on your parenthetical comment, Bruce, to make a point. The Palestinians have an agenda-- self-determination, Statehood, and peace. The Israelis have an agenda-- the recognition of their right to exist, and peace. Muslim (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm curious as to how you think the BT is worthwhile to a Christian by showing that what they believe in is silly (I can see why is it useful to *you*-- a "creative" expression of your rejection of your perceived silliness of Christianity, and (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing, if that's what it is. What actually happened here? The conventional answer is that England took Ireland by force, right? Isn't it a lot more complicated than that? I dunno, haven't done research in depth but aren't we in some cases (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, what's wrong with trying to throw out a foreign occupying force? Rather see them do it Gandhi/King style, though. Blowing up baby carriages just hurts their own cause (kinda like the Palestinians). -->Bruce<-- (23 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh!! I was typing so quickly (as usual) that it went right by me! Apologies Larry! Still, thanks for the word usage! I shan't mistype your name again, ++Lar! Dave K (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lar++ Careful Dave - the postfix operator is definitely *not* equivalent to the prefix operator, and using Lar++ may produce unpredictable results... ROSCO (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Ooooh, one of my favourite words that is rarely used in this day and age. I shan't deny... :) Thanks for brightening up my otherwise dreary and depressing day at work, (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Breaking my usual practice of ignoring you and your nonsense, I decided to see how hard it was to clarify this for you. It wasn't hard at all. Using the search string "fund terrorist ireland arthur" it's not too hard to dig up lots of examples (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you mean me, I dont think I have ever made any link between the IRA and American-Christians or even Irish-Americans [whatever they are] specifically? Call me on that if Im wrong, otherwise Id appreciate some clarification. Further, the (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps because the white-christian-right holds so much power? Scott A (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "discusting and revolting"? I'll have to assume, for lack of you being specific, that you're talking about the content on my personal website TheReverend.com, but it's anyone's guess just what it is you find so "discusting and revolting". Is (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I do not believe in God. (...) Being Christian and being black aren't particularly analagous. Christianity is a religion comprised of a belief system that you can either choose to accept or reject. Being black means you happened to be born (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you mean *cheek* turning christians. Unless, of course, you're referring to the Irish Americans who apparently keep turning checks over to the IRA that someone keeps trying to use as an argument... (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But this really isn't about BPS and God having a good laugh-- heck, BPS probably doesn't even believe in God. It's about BPS and you having a good laugh at Joe Christian and his relationship with God. It's like the unwritten rule that only (...) (23 years ago, 28-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think what he felt was betrayal and a sense of being lied to. If he had known going in that it was mockery, his reaction IMO would have been different. I really don't care about someone's paticular beliefs when I view their MOC, unless their (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I recall a NG documentary where the explorers dug a basement in Jericho (sp?), and found an almost complete arsenal of human arms since Ancient Times to 1947 Independance war of Israel. In *a single* basement... so I can understand what you (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And b/w friends and family that's fully understood and there's no issues at all! My friends and myself have a huge 'banter' thing going on--any small slip or gaffe in conversation generates lots of ridicule. But that's amongst friends--to have (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ;) See, b/w friends you can tell me I'm an idiot and snicker at the dumb things I do--good friends laugh at one another when we do stupid things :) As long as we know that there's a helping hand behind the laugh--friends know that :) Dave K (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Once, a long time ago, when my little sister was about 3 years old, she exclaimed "Ow! My feelings!". We found it hilarious. Still do. Should we not? I think the point is not to belittle those who are naive, while still being able to find (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough, you're right. It DID make me snicker though, I just couldn't help it. You should have seen what I didn't post... :-) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I concur with your synopsis as well. I have seen many people who profess their Christianity spouting venom and hatred of those things 'unChristian'. To me, that's a very unChristian, and quite frankly more important, inhuman thing to do. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) And I believe that naive people need to be guided and not laughed at. Who here would point and snicker at someone who 'just got off the boat' into a strange land where the rules and (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you forgot to capitalize Beer... (if it's god's beer it's beer with a capital B right?) (...) Were I a believer I'd be saying that he works in mysterious ways, getting a non believer to spend so much time spreading the word. And as for (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jon Palmer" <jon@zemi.net> wrote in message news:H691K8.CJH@lugnet.com... (...) Ok "superstition" was a bit harsh. I should have said "belief". But I seriously do still stand by my opinion of how rediculous it is to completely discount something (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also 'stuck my foot in it'--I was so impressed that a 'Reverend' played with LEGO and was doing the Bible with LEGO bricks. I went and told some of my friends. Then I realized, probably due to a BPS posting at the time, that he wasn't a (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Easy there, tiger. I was snickering at the rather credulous and wide eyed statement (unfortunately snipped, but worth rereading) that Ronald Scott Moody initially made, not his particular worldview. Such charming naivety is, well... lauguable, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if it makes Scott feel any better, I failed to see the joke a year ago: (URL) in my defense I seem to recall that the stories illustrated in LEGO up to that time were less satirical than they later became. That's not to say that the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I too have laughed at more than one depiction of Biblical events as portrayed in brick on Brendan's site. I would add to this debate that God very likely has a sense of humor about these things too. Afterall, if we were created in his image, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) doesn't fit into their worldview! Quoteth Larry " Well that's certainly ONE view of what he's doing, yes. Please forgive me for snickering out loud when I read the above paragraph " (though, to be said, Larry did put in the apology before the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Ronald Scott Moody" <uberwindin@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:H689GH.609@lugnet.com... (...) you (...) proclaim (...) have (...) face (...) not (...) that (...) Fundies rock. Lets just disregard all creative aspects of Brendan's work because (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) snip Scott, Brendan's site is religious in nature but it is not christian. I hope for your sake you stayed out of the new testament. Sometimes slight and other times not so slight mockery of God can be found in every story. I too collect (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I just heard that somebody just won twice! :-P <my comment was tongue-in-cheek as well> -John (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The UK has already lost 1000's to terrorists. Much of it supporeted by *your* countrymen: (URL)You just don't get it. You don't. OBL has been a terrorist for quite a while. You country trained him. None of that was a problem until he bit the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The fall-out continues: (URL) points of further interest from the article: 1- (from the article) " She apologized last week, but the furor has continued in Canada. On Monday, some opposition members of Parliament noted the comment appeared in an (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Well, here's a little story about a kid named Dave. First, let me just say that this kid has a pretty awesome name, but that's not the story... Our little hero was born around (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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