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Re: IGNORANT view fuel the IRA?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:57:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey, what's wrong with trying to throw out a foreign occupying force?
> > > > > Rather see them do it Gandhi/King style, though. Blowing up baby carriages
> > > > > just hurts their own cause (kinda like the Palestinians).
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to jump on your parenthetical comment, Bruce, to make a point. The
> > > > Palestinians have an agenda-- self-determination, Statehood, and peace. The
> > > > Israelis have an agenda-- the recognition of their right to exist, and peace.
> >
> > *sigh* Even the PA recognises their right to exist.
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> *Everyone* in the PA???
Does everyone in Isreal support the occupation of the West Bank? Does the
majority even do so?
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> > The Israeli agenda is land
> > theft.
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> I don't deny that there are extremist Israelis who hold this view, but the
> overwhelming majority *DO NOT*, and thus your statement is patently false and
> egregiously provocative.
When Shamir ended his term as PM this is what he had to say:
"It pains me greatly that in the coming four years I will not be able to
expand the settlements in Judea and Samaria [West Bank] and to complete the
demographic revolution in the Land of Israel. I know that others will now
try to work against this. Without this demographic revolution, there is no
value to the talk about autonomy, because there is a danger that it will be
turned into a Palestinian state. What is this talk about 'political
settlements'? I would have carried on autonomy talks for ten years, and
meanwhile we would have reached half a million people in Judea and Samaria."
What is Sharon’s agenda? Netanyahu’s?
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> Anyone who really believes in freedom [as opposed to self interest]
> > would understand that.
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> You said it, not I-- I rest my case.
I stand by those words John. If you believed in freedom, you'd condemn the
Israeli acts of terror every bit as much as you the Palestinian’s. But you
don't.
I rest my case.
Scott A
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> -John
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