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Re: IGNORANT views fuel oppression?
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Sat, 30 Nov 2002 17:08:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
> > > > > Quoting Scott A <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com>:
> > > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > > > > > Effectively, though, this means that Isrealis need to give up some land,
> > > > > > > and the English need to give some political power.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, I assume you mean British. We have already devolved some power. It
> > > > > > is extremists in NI [Republican and Unionist, elected and unelected] who are
> > > > > > currently dragging their heals.
> > > > >
> > > > > So how is this different than Israel, Scott? The Israelies already gave up
> > > > > some land. It is extremists in the PA (both elected and unelected) who are
> > > > > currently dragging their heels, and fanning the flames.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't agree with your view.
> > > >
> > > > The Israelis gave up a very small part of the land they stole a few decades ago
> > >
> > > Really? I suggest you take your tape measure and head over to the Sinai
> > > Pennisula and start taking measurements...
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> Back already?
I agree that Sinai is a large lump of land. However, it was [reluctantly]
handed back to *Egypt* - not the *Palestinians*.
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> > > > - its legal owners want all of it back. In order to keep it, the Israelis [in
> > > > the form of the rather heroic IDF] oppress all manner of innocents.
> > >
> > > Then explain the Camp David Agreement.
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> > I have already!
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> Don't be obtuse-- explain it in light of your above accusation.
Barak's offer was empty (it had to be ratified in a referendum). He knew
Arafat could not accept it. Even so, what stopped Barak from making a better
offer? What right does Israel have to the West Bank, Gaza or Jerusalem
anyway? Does SH not have equal rights over Kuwait?
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> > > Israel *can* be reasonable, *does* want
> > > peace, and have *proven* this. The PA is populated with those that *don't*
> > > want peace, *want* instability, and *desire* the destruction of the State of
> > > Israel. The *Palestinians* are the ones who need to clean house first here,
> > > just as Egypt got her act together *first*.
> >
> > Who wrecked Oslo / Oslo II? Why?
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> Who indeed. It merely exemplifies the need for Israel to be negogiating with
> those who actually desire peace instead of seeking more step in the
> destroy-Israel agenda.
Answer the question. Netanyahu ripped up Olso/Oslo II using a wafer thin
majority.
Scott A
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> -John
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| (...) Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter yesterday: "At Camp David in 1978 and in Oslo in 1993, Israelis, Egyptians, and Palestinians have endorsed the only reasonable prescription for peace: United Nations Resolution 242... It condemns the (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Back already? (...) Don't be obtuse-- explain it in light of your above accusation. (...) Who indeed. It merely exemplifies the need for Israel to be negogiating with those who actually desire peace instead of seeking more step in the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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