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Re: IGNORANT views fuel oppression?
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Date: 
Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:02:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger writes:
> > > > Quoting Scott A <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com>:
> > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > > > > Effectively, though, this means that Isrealis need to give up some land,
> > > > > > and the English need to give some political power.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, I assume you mean British. We have already devolved some power. It
> > > > > is extremists in NI [Republican and Unionist, elected and unelected] who are
> > > > > currently dragging their heals.
> > > > 
> > > > So how is this different than Israel, Scott?  The Israelies already gave up
> > > > some land.  It is extremists in the PA (both elected and unelected) who are
> > > > currently dragging their heels, and fanning the flames.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't agree with your view.
> > > 
> > > The Israelis gave up a very small part of the land they stole a few decades ago
> > 
> > Really?  I suggest you take your tape measure and head over to the Sinai
> > Pennisula and start taking measurements...

Back already?

> > > - its legal owners want all of it back. In order to keep it, the Israelis [in
> > > the form of the rather heroic IDF] oppress all manner of innocents.
> > 
> > Then explain the Camp David Agreement.
> 
> I have already!

Don't be obtuse-- explain it in light of your above accusation.

> >  Israel *can* be reasonable, *does* want
> > peace, and have *proven* this.  The PA is populated with those that *don't*
> > want peace, *want* instability, and *desire* the destruction of the State of
> > Israel.  The *Palestinians* are the ones who need to clean house first here,
> > just as Egypt got her act together *first*.
> 
> Who wrecked Oslo / Oslo II? Why?

Who indeed.  It merely exemplifies the need for Israel to be negogiating with
those who actually desire peace instead of seeking more step in the
destroy-Israel agenda.

-John



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(...) I agree that Sinai is a large lump of land. However, it was [reluctantly] handed back to *Egypt* - not the *Palestinians*. (...) Barak's offer was empty (it had to be ratified in a referendum). He knew Arafat could not accept it. Even so, what (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I have already! (...) Who wrecked Oslo / Oslo II? Why? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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