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Re: The Brick Testament parts the Red Sea
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Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:57:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > > Believing that the God of the Hebrew Bible sent his son to Earth in the form
> > > of a human male 2,000 years ago to "save" us from our sins sounds very much
> > > like it is incompatible with other religions' theologies, and not at all
> > > independent of them.
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> > It is unique, and it has a unique message.
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> There are any number of self-contradictory assertions inherent in the
> Christian faith with which one could take issue, but this is the big one that
> needs to be exorcised whenever it's uttered. The whole
> God-incarnate-here-to-redeem-us theme is not at all distinct to Christian
> mythology, and in fact occurred numerous times in history prior to Christ,
> quite a few times contemporaneously, and a bunch of times since then. To
> assert that there is anything grand or divine or unique or special about the
> alleged divinity, death, and alleged resurrection of Christ is simply to ignore
> reality.
> I can assemble a list of other divine incarnations if you'd like, but I don't
> have all of the necessary citations in front of me, so it'll take a little
> while. In any case, it is futile to hang one's faith on claims of uniquely
> manifested divinity.
I would like to see your cites. Christianity offers a few unique twists. One
which I believe is unique is the "fully human, fully divine" status of Jesus,
and his fulfillment of OT biblical prophesy. I also am not aware of any
God-incarnate myths that came to forgive sins, or that came to earth *humbled*.
And since I used the active-indicative in my assertion, have you any cites of
*current* examples?
-John
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| (...) Socrates was, for example, a Son of God, though I understand that that's not quite what you meant. (Socrates was more moral than Jesus, however). Off the top of my head the other big one I can think of is Appollonius of Tyre, whose name I may (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) There are any number of self-contradictory assertions inherent in the Christian faith with which one could take issue, but this is the big one that needs to be exorcised whenever it's uttered. The whole God-incarnate-here-to-redeem-us theme is (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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