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Re: Debunk this?
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Date: 
Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:16:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> 
> > I agree that legally Israel does exist and that it is here to stay. I wish
> > they would respect human rights a little more, stop murdering people,
> > respect UN resolutions, hand back what is does not belong top them, get rid
> > of their nuclear weapons and try to be a bit more of a team player. But, I
> > suppose, I'm an idealist.
> 
> > How about you?
> 
> I'm an idealist too. Oh, that wasn't what you were asking... I agree with
> all of that except for the part about the nukes. I know it's accepted wisdom
> that Israel has some. If they do I think they ought to keep them. At least
> until we invent a "reality distortion field" that makes them not work at
> all, all around the world, or something. (which isn't very likely, really,
> although lots of fun SF has been written around the idea).
> 
> What about Jordan, though? Is Jordan the Palestinian Homeland per the
> original UN resolution, or is it something else?

I live in the greatest country in the world. If I moved to a not so good one
(say England). Scotland would still be my home.

> 
> > > > > > I suspect (but can't confirm
> > > > > > since Dan hasn't said) Dan does not feel that way at all.
> > 
> > So?
> 
> I'm just trying to establish where everyone stands. You and Dan are the
> strongest defenders of the Palestinians and their actions. (not the only
> ones, mind you... but many of the rest of us are a bit more balanced about
> it...)

I don't really see myself in those terms. Read the news and you will see
that Israel are pretty good at manipulating the media - the Palestinians
lack the same skills (at the subtle end of the scale anyway). I think both
sides of the argument always needs to be heard on every issue - even when
one side says ~7000 people have been murdered in the space of an hour.  I
don't support the Palestinians anymore than I do the Israelis (I think both
the Israelis and the Palestinians need to be sent to bed without any
supper.), I just think their voice needs no be herd a little more.


Scott A


> 
> ++Lar



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(...) I'm an idealist too. Oh, that wasn't what you were asking... I agree with all of that except for the part about the nukes. I know it's accepted wisdom that Israel has some. If they do I think they ought to keep them. At least until we invent a (...) (25 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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