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Re: Debunk this?
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Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:34:36 GMT
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Richard Marchetti wrote:
David:

You seem to be pretty selective about what you are willing to comment on.
For some information that flies in the face of your assertions about modern
day Israel, please see:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,285-2001255970,00.html

you've pointed this out before - you fail to mention that Sharon has been proven innocent in the past...  The charge is "Mr Sharon had command responsibility over the Christian Phalangist militia and could have predicted their rampage".  No wonder he was aquitted before.

I don't know the reputation of The Times, but the article contains
information I have from other sources as well.  This part is interesting:

"Mr Jensen’s statement came after a dispute broke out when Mr Gillon, who
headed Israel’s Shin Bet domestic intelligence service between 1994 and
1996, told a Danish newspaper soon after his appointment as Ambassador was
announced, that Israel might return to the use of torture, which he
described as “moderate physical pressure”, in the fight against terrorism. "

Have you stopped torturing your people, Mr. Sharon?

1)  The guy says "Moderate physical pressure" the reporter writes "torture".
2)  The fight against terrorism isn't "against your own people".
3)  If there's good intelligence that there's a suicide bomber heading twards Tel-Aviv, and they catch someone in his cell that has info about it, as far as I'm concerned, they can use any means needed to stop that terrorist.
4)  The very next paragraph:  "Torture of any kind was outlawed last year by Israel's supreme court." - If someone does use torture, he's breaking the law and _will_ go to jail.

:/

Dan



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Hello Dan, (...) What if they just THINK he has info about it? If you really think this idea to the very end, I think you will prefer to live in a constitutional state. (...) ^^^^^^ "could potentially" probably would be more realistic ... Greetings (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Debunk this?
 
(...) I am pretty sure I have never mentioned this in the past. So I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you are mistaking me for someone else. And I am really not sure about the previous acquittal -- but I am willing to read a cite if (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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David: You seem to be pretty selective about what you are willing to comment on. For some information that flies in the face of your assertions about modern day Israel, please see: (URL) don't know the reputation of The Times, but the article (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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