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Re: Debunk this?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:18:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Low writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> > 
> > > Well, how many resolutions/motions to condemn Israel have there been in the
> > > U.N.?
> > 
> > A lot. Some have passed, and some, as you point out, have been vetoed.
> > 
> > I would ask you though, if you think UN resolutions are something to pick
> > and choose from, or whether one has to accept them all. If the latter, does
> > that mean you acknowledge Israel's right to exist (within the original
> > borders)? That, after all, was a UN resolution as well. It also gave the
> > Palestinians a homeland, IIRC.
> > 
> > If you reject that particular resolution, you probably ought not to refer to
> > UN resolutions in support of your arguments at all.
> 
> A few references
> 
> Israel's changing border:
> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/israel.htm

I've complained about Mr. White before but I should turn around and praise
him for what he's done well. The interactive historical atlas that this is a
part of is pretty amazing... the TOC is here:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/20centry.htm

There is a LOT more there than just the map of Israel that David refers to.
I liked some of the animated GIFs best. For instance the 1945-1990
government alignment timeline that I ran across. Pretty amazing.

> U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel
> http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html
>   general assembly resolutions here:
>     http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/gatoc.html
>   security council resolutions here:
>     http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/UN/sctoc.html

Yes, the US favors Israel, I don't think I am denying that... but how does
this have bearing on my question?

Does Dan accept the original UN resolution founding Israel and giving it a
right to exist (and the Palestinians a separate homeland) or not? If not, is
he a pick and chooser (1) or does he intend to stop citing UN resolutions in
support of his case?

1 - I should note... *I* am a pick and chooser when it comes to the UN...
and thus I don't cite UN resolutions very much at all as justification for
anything. But since I don't (much), the argument doesn't (much) apply to me.



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(...) A few references Israel's changing border: (URL) Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (URL) general assembly resolutions here: (URL) security council resolutions here: (URL) another perspective -- take it or leave it (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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