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Re: Debunk this?
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Arnon writes:
> 2) You are talking about something that happened 53 years ago.
> It's like saying the US is a terrorist organization because of
> Vietnam or UK because of the Zulu wars (and so on)
How long must a group of people have stopped supporting or engaging in
terrorism for us to acknowledge that they are not (any longer) a terrorist
organization?
I'm not at all targetting Israel with this. Factions of the IRA evolved away
from violence and toward politics, right? So are they terrorist organizations
or not? What if any nation engages in terrorism, and then stops. When does
our view of that nation rightly shift? In reality, it would be a gradual
shift, but what about just thinking about it? Is there any more valid stance
than just acknowledging that our understanding of the organization's nature
will change slowly?
Chris
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| Hello Chris, (...) If you need the fact that they are terrorists to validate your argument, you may decide to change NEVER instead of slowly ... Greetings Horst (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I guess you mean during the 1948 war, 1) This isn't different than what is happening now in Afghanistan. People left their homes in fear of the coming war. 1.25 million Israeli Arabs now living in Israel are the ones who didn't run. 2) You are (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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