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Re: Debunk this?
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Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:12:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > Dan, why don't you agree with their attacking the Israelis? If I were • certain
> > that your side of their behavior were the most accurate rendition of what's
> > going on, I would have full support for their violence.
>
> Because violence begets violence, hates begets hate. The only way to
> overcome it and live in peace is to not play the game. But how can the
> Palestinians overcome a bunch of racist, exclusionist thugs like the
> Zionists especially when they are strongly supported by the most powerful
> nation in the world?
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> > When I go down your list of circumstances after "imagine your," I hope that • my
> > response would be during my calm moments to insist that the world community
> > show the invaders the door (for a little while, before moving to plan two).
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> Well, how many resolutions/motions to condemn Israel have there been in the
> U.N.? How many has America and the U.K. struck down? It's all too apparent
> that the world minority is deciding for the world majority. Is that • democracy?
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> > Plan two (or sooner if I got hopped up) would be to start whacking the
> > invaders, to form specialist squads, and wage a guerrilla war against them • in
> > an attempt to make the occupation too costly.
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> That's what the PLO thought, but replace "specialist squads" with
> "terrorist" and you suddenly have a PR war as well. And then we get back to
> violence begetting violence.
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> > As I have advocated select barbarism in the past, this is a perfect example • of
> > when I would rather become a devil (or a casualty) than a slave.
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> Well said, but this is why we have this ongoing crisis. The Palestinians
> don't want to run anymore and many Jews don't have anywhere to go. But
> rather than live with their Arab brothers, the Zionists decided long before
> 1948 to expell them and take over the area. If the Zionists had it
> completely their way (and even David would verify this), Israel would extend
> through Jordan way into Iraq, would include much of northern Saudi Arabia
> and Egypt, and most of Lebenon and southwestern Syria. This was, and perhaps
> still is, the manifest destiny of the Zionists.
That's ridiculous.
> Dan
- David
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| (...) Because violence begets violence, hates begets hate. The only way to overcome it and live in peace is to not play the game. But how can the Palestinians overcome a bunch of racist, exclusionist thugs like the Zionists especially when they are (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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