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Re: Debunk this?
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Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:13:05 GMT
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David:
You seem to be pretty selective about what you are willing to comment on.
For some information that flies in the face of your assertions about modern
day Israel, please see:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,285-2001255970,00.html
I don't know the reputation of The Times, but the article contains
information I have from other sources as well. This part is interesting:
"Mr Jensen’s statement came after a dispute broke out when Mr Gillon, who
headed Israel’s Shin Bet domestic intelligence service between 1994 and
1996, told a Danish newspaper soon after his appointment as Ambassador was
announced, that Israel might return to the use of torture, which he
described as “moderate physical pressure”, in the fight against terrorism. "
Have you stopped torturing your people, Mr. Sharon?
Please note the even-handed coverage of the article, which also contains this:
"Palestinian killings of civilians, including of unarmed Jewish settlers on
the West Bank, and acts of terror against civilians perpetrated by the
Palestine Liberation Organisation during the 1970s and 1980s mean that
Yassir Arafat and many senior members of his entourage could also face
arrest anywhere in Europe if, as one senior lawyer put it, “there was enough
political will to do so”."
Everyone being wrong doesn't make anyone right.
-- Hop-Frog (Your friendly neighborhood anti-torture guy)
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) 1) The guy says "Moderate physical pressure" the reporter writes "torture". 2) The fight against terrorism isn't "against your own people". 3) If there's good intelligence that there's a suicide bomber heading twards Tel-Aviv, and they catch (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Of course. I was answering certain accusations and not listing all that I see wrong in modern day Israel. surely, Mr. Gilon is not who Daniel Jasim referred to as a "terrorist (by America's very own definition)". I'm sure no one in the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I guess you mean during the 1948 war, 1) This isn't different than what is happening now in Afghanistan. People left their homes in fear of the coming war. 1.25 million Israeli Arabs now living in Israel are the ones who didn't run. 2) You are (...) (23 years ago, 23-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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