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Re: The big lie
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Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:09:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
I am actually interested to hear why you have changed
you mind on airport/line security.

I don't believe I *have* changed my mind about it.

Really. Who psoted this then:

==+==
I want to get the federal government
_completely_ out of every area where it's made
such a mess -- health care, education, law
enforcement, welfare, foreign aid, corporate
welfare, highway boondoggles, farm subsidies. Not
only are these programs unconstitutional, they do
tremendous damage to our lives.
==+==

Presumably it was me, but whether it was or not (I forget and you gave no
link so I can't check without searching) I agree with it.

Nothing inconsistent there with my stance on airline security or airport
security either. The airlines ought to be responsible for security on board
airliners and ought to be held accountable (strictly) if and when they blow
it. The airport owners (which in most cases are government but SHOULD be
private) should be responsible for security in airports and ought to be held
strictly accountable if and when they blow it.

Was there a point you were trying to make?


So why is it OK for "the feds" to invade your privacy at the airport but
nowhere else?

Um, it's not OK there either. Not at private airports, not in an ideal
system. We're in a mixed system so some compromises happen. Doesn't mean I
like them or accept them or agree with them or think they are good.

So no, it is NOT OK and I think we can do much better than we currently have
done.

The fact that you even ask this question means you haven't really been
paying attention to what I've been saying for lo these many years, because
the answer is a clear implication from first principles, which you must not
have grasped yet.



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  Re: The big lie
 
(...) I'm talking about where the government own the airport. (...) Larry, whenever you start to squirm we either get this "it is not an ideal world yet so we have to compromise for now" answer or we get the "LP dreamland is an ideal world which can (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The big lie
 
(...) So why is it OK for "the feds" to invade your privacy at the airport but nowhere else? Scott A (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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