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Re: The big lie
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Date: 
Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:04:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

The
private sector can't be trusted:
http://www.airsafetyonline.com/news/2001/08/02/4.shtml

Efforts by the air industry in the USA to oppose improvements in security
has lead to the situation where the USA very lax security for internal flights.

From:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1538000/1538682.stm
==+==
Within the last decade, a major commission headed by then US Vice-President
Al Gore recommended increasing security to international levels - but the
industry opposed the idea so strongly that the plan was never adopted, say
industry insiders.
==+==

If the Gore Commission did not make any recommendations I can assume
security would have been even worse than it was on the 11th.

I deny none of the above except the unstated implication that this is the
only possible outcome. Remember, these actions are by heavily regulated
firms that, as it turns out, managed to (quite easily) wriggle off the hook
for liability.

The regulations are largely irrelevant. Generally they set a minimum
standard, not a maximum one. It is my understanding that UA and AA are open
to litigation for their "failure" on the 11th - is that not the case?


To make this indictment stick for a strict liability system like is proposed
you would need to show that wriggling off the hook was even possible, much
less easy or inevitable.

I'm not clear on what you mean?

Scott A



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  Re: The big lie
 
(...) That's the theory, but in practice it has turned out that regulations are HIGHLY relevant... they are a min-max. In other industries the defense that "we were in conformance with standards" has been an accepted defense. This has been discussed (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The big lie
 
(...) I deny none of the above except the unstated implication that this is the only possible outcome. Remember, these actions are by heavily regulated firms that, as it turns out, managed to (quite easily) wriggle off the hook for liability. To (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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