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Re: The big lie
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:00:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > From Forbes, which is much more libertarian than Fortune (which is why I
> > subscribe to one and read the other on airplanes where it's free to me)
> > 
> > http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/17/0917lie.html
> > 
> > Need I say I totally agree that we do not need changes in the Bill of Rights?
> > Airport Security improvements yes.
> > Blanket unauthorised wiretap powers no.
> 
> 
> Are you saying that the do not want your government to invade the privacy of
> individuals which they suspect may be terrorists in a manner which is
> simpler that it is right now, but it is OK for them to improve airport >security?

Correct. I don't want civil rights lessened or destroyed across the board.

> In either case, I suspect the opinion polls will dictate what happnes :\

I suspect you are reading things correctly, unfortunately.

That doesn't make what happens "right" though, as I've said before, just
because a majority votes (or voices an opinion) to do something doesn't
suddenly change what underlying rights the minority had.



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  Re: The big lie
 
(...) I find a quote of Benjamin Franklin's expresses my views on the subject. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." It's a bit harsh, but I agree with it, and with Larry, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The big lie
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GJx8oE.2rq@lugnet.com... (...) Rights? (...) of (...) With regards to airport security, I would have thought you would want to leave it to the airlines to improve security? (...) (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Are you saying that the do not want your government to invade the privacy of individuals which they suspect may be terrorists in a manner which is simpler that it is right now, but it is OK for them to improve airport security? In either case, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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