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> > > As for "first principles", I have become convinced that you do not even
> > > understand what "freedom" really means. What tipped the balance was this post:
> > > http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=13204
> >
> > I'm totally comfortable with what I said there and see no contradiction.
> > Feel free to explain how it shows that I don't understand what freedom
> > means. Freedom does NOT mean letting those that violate your rights get away
> > with it if you can help it.
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> Your comfort is irrelvant. You said what happened on the 11th was an attack
> on "freedom and liberty", I'm just asking you to justify that (if you can).
> This text questions the premis that it was an attack on freedom and liberty:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4266289,00.html
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> The author takes it apart. It is a long text, but well worth the read. Read
> it, and then tell me what you mean by "freedom and liberty".
Well can you justify your comments after reading the text I quote?
Scott A
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| (...) Come on Larry, I really am interested in what you think freedom & liberty means, both within the context of the text I quoted and your fondness for the thoughts of George Roberson. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Let me get this straight. You think airline/port security should be set by the private sector (I have shown they can not be trusted) and regulated by lawyers (removing the responsibility from the consumer)? (...) Youch an insult! How adult. (...) (23 years ago, 1-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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