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(...) Well, 5% from you is like 50% of a normal person's purchases. :) At least last year's. (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I can't. Sorry. Fascinating but no time. ++Lar (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I'm certainly no expert with the program, but I did use the trial version for a few days and it does make monitoring auctions more convenient. The trial version also doesn't allow you to snipe. As for a pirated version, I'm sure there is (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoops, I think I may have worded what I said poorly. I meant that of the e-bay auctions where I put in a serious bid, I lately have been winning about 20%. That was an off the cuff number, I have not analysed in detail. I'd say that eBay (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:50:46 GMT, Selçuk <teyyareci> uttered the following profundities... (...) In light of this thread, especially bits about animal intelligence, genetic engineering, and such like, I'd recommend reading "Chromosome-7," by Robin (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) I can't fault that. That's not my thing, but that doesn't make it any less legitimate, and obviously it works very well for you (and many others). It does have an effect on legonomics, which I'll go into in a moment.... <snip> (...) A (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) I don't see the relevance of the first two, but I think both partss of the third are spot-on. However, I think the monetary difference is negligible. Adam bwappo@ee.net (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<F6zL7x.CuM@lugnet.com> <36C2F127.41C6@kali....ginia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (...) Yes, this one. And yes, he uses the word "holy" for it. Just searched for it and saw the stupidity. I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Something to think about: even with proxy bidding, you will, over time, get lower totals on winning-bids in eBay auctions if you do not bid until the last second. Why? - Proxy bidding isn't perfect. - Not everyone uses proxy bidding properly. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, blisses@worldnet.att.net (Steve Bliss) writes: [...] (...) [...] I've noticed that sort of thing too! Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. :) Last summer, the nextdoor neighbors had a garage sale and asked us if we had (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The 5-10 minute works to disable people who snipe in the last 30 seconds or so. When people slam in bids with less than 1 minute left in the auction, it's extremely challenging for anyone to re-bid in time. With a 5-10 minute (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because adding bids increases demand for the item. So any bidding activity from the seller is suspect. It's a matter of trust. I have a friend who sells at craft fairs. She reports that the thing that increases her sales volume is to have (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But the idea with computerized sniping is you can fire off a low bid late enough in the game, that no one will be able to react in time (even another computer -- it won't be informed of the change soon enough). If the item is already bidded (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Steve (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In this particular case, it's because it was boron. Steve (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:58:54 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote: Follow-up to .fun, for obvious reasons. (...) Well... I'm not sure if this is a spoiler or not. I think not, because I think it's book 3... yes, it is. It's (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That would be "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency". If the translator translated "holistic" to Turkish-for-"holy", then you might be better off to read the English language originals. (...) There is also "The Long Dark Tea-time of the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Seriously, we're all (well, I am anyway) eager to start dumping a cut into your projects. (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36ccaaf5.56473925@l...et.com>... (...) Not that easy, takes 10M years to come by...:-) Selçuk (1) Preliminary answer?..now I'm at the middle of fourth book, and probably will start fifth one this weekend...:-) nice (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here is some background info: (URL) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jesse Long wrote in message ... (...) element) (...) Bet you also like " The Postman" and "Waterworld" which are both declared "unnecessary to see" by the critics. And yes, I'd like them, too. .:-) Selçuk P.S.. Since she is the supreme being, and (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) designed for bastards ripping people off. Why would they not also get a warez version of the program? Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's rather sad. A box of Beta currently goes for... $2000, I think. Possibly more. Arabian Nights go for $4000, which is totally silly - I calculated once what cards you'd get out of it (pretty good guess, as in each box you get 120 out of (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry - yes, that is what I meant. (...) Cool! I'll look forward to that. Simon (URL) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) On my desk, but that's it :) Does anyone have a spare 6067 flag? :) Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You've found it! The Question to the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything! Oh... Wait. It's only the preliminary answer. Damn the telephone sanitizers! Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Selçuk wrote in message ... (...) absolute (...) is (...) Never thought I'd go for a girl with neon orange hair. Why are all my favorite movies panned by the critics? Jesse ___...___ Jesse The Jolly Jingoist Looking for answers? Read the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) In several references, I saw some claims about cats that they have the most evolved and most humanlike brain throughout the animal world, which has many close resemblances with human brain. This is very nice (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're right, I haven't. To-date, I've done nothing more complicated than a straight sale. I am gearing up for a small set auction, and am considering if the amount of work that would go into a parts auction is worth it to me. I am aware that (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No..No need to prove. Supreme being is existing. I saw her on TV, and she is a very cute one..:-) (I don't know why, she calls herself as fifth element) Selçuk (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, in a way it is. The sad thing is, I almost bought it a while back just because I liked the thought of having a little window open with all the auctions I was watching that is updated on a regular basis. The sniping function wouldn't be (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <36cb6267.40441156@l...et.com>... (...) 6x9 ?.... Selçuk (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm snipping everything else because for this post at least I want to focus on this thought that using an outside service is even possibly detrimental to the community. Sorry to be blunt, but do you know what the hell you're talking about when (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (Guess you read this before I posted later that I may have slightly misinterpreted what you were saying.) (...) Well, I'm not PO'ed about it, but I'd say I didn't "accuse" you of "saying" anything. I misunderstood PART of what you actually (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If he was the high bidder what difference does it make? It was his set, and he was the high bidder. He still had to pay the eBay fee, I bet, so if he did sell it to his offline friend things worked the same as if he had sold it to the second (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If it is it isn't obvious. I forget the name of it now, but I will look for it and post it. It has a function that allows you to snipe, I do remember that. Oh, here it is. (URL) Unofficial listing of weekly US Lego Shop at Home phone specials (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No problem. I flared up too. (...) Understood. I would just prefer that the buyer who gets it is someone who participates online. From what others have said, about half the winning bids go to people who don't participate in RTL or Lugnet, and (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Although in this case, completism was 100% of the motivation, it's not always about completism. For example, Suz and I were bidding on an extremely rare old '75 Wild West set, (URL) an auction Matt Chiles held about a year ago. The set was (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[Crossposted from lugnet.off-topic.debate with followups set to lugnet.admin.general] (...) I think the French newsgroup fr.rec.jeux.lego is going to pass. When it was being discussed in fr.usenet.forums.evolution last month, the CFD received quite (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) See? I'm slowly influencing you. You're ranking cats right up there with dolphins and monkeys. :) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That just demonstrates the level of insanity some completists can achieve. :) To some a set is worth the some of its parts. To others the set as an entity has value that far outweighs the sum of its parts. I fall into one of those groups. :) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, galliard@shades-of-night.com (James Brown) writes: [...] (...) [...] Ultimately, that's what LUGNET is designed to evolve into -- so that you wouldn't have to say RTL/LUGNET or LUGNET/RTL or "all AFOLs online," etc. But (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK cool, that's what I thought you probably meant. It certainly was clear for anyone who's been around for a while. I just wanted to point out in no uncertain terms for the record (since there are always new people coming online and getting up (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I may have misunderstood what you said before and responded in a rather offended tone in a previous post. Forgive me if it offended you. But I don't agree with this either. If a set will sell for $100 on RTL but might go for $150 on eBay (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) benefit (...) The point I was illustrating (not clear enough, sorry) was not to assume the guy was lying about his off-line friend. James (URL) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) That is precisely the kind of situation for which a reserve price is meant. I'm usually not a fan of reserve prices either, but they are indeed a good alternative to high minimum starting bids, as you pointed out. <snipped him pointing (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa! Back up a second there! I neither said nor implied any such thing! What I _did_ say was that I treat e-bay like I treat a garage sale. A place to get Lego. What I _did_ say was that selling through e-bay takes Lego out of the community. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How is that a case in point? You didn't sell anything in AucZILLA VIII -- I did. (And I've never shilled, and never will.) --Todd (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks again :) Yet if using an outside auction service is detrimental, then it doesn't matter how how much good I do--I'm still responsible for detrimental actions. Which is why the question of detriment is important. (...) Ahhh...I think (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is it sold by eBay? ;-) --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, bwappo@ee.net (Adam Yulish) writes: [...] (...) I don't know if it's -worth- that much, but I was happy to get it for $400. (...) But the box and instructions were in mint condition. Essentially, I paid $395 for the box (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't jump to conclusions... I would be inclined to give the seller the benefit of the doubt. As a case in point, easily 1/3 of the items I bid on in Auczilla VIII were for 'off-line' friends, and that jumped to about 1/2 of my bids for (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm, Good point. I would be inclined to argue that the good you bring into the community more than outweighs the (contestable) detriment of using an outside auction service. Actually, it would be more than an inclination - I am arguing it. :) (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've bought several Lego items through eBay. Larry says about 20% of his stuff is coming from eBay. I know other people, including other fairly heavy buyers, do the same. Exactly who gets to decide who is and who isn't part of this community (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking as someone who has sold stuff in many places (RTL, Lugnet, Yahoo!, eBay, my own websites, etc) it wouldn't frustrate the hell out of me. Don't make the assumption that the only people selling on eBay are outsiders that the rest of our (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes it does. I was researching a seller's previous items sold and noticed once that the seller was also the high bidder on an item. I questioned the seller and his reply was that a friend without Internet access wanted the item so he placed (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would never shill. I did put a reserve price on the auction, though. Maybe one that is too high, given the slow bidding, but then again most eBay bidding takes place in the last few hours/minutes. I used to hate reserve prices, and I still (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, they have. I know of at least one commercial product produced to allow you to do just that and more. (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose exceptions are possible, but other than momentary fluctuations, The general "level" of set worth continues to be pretty even across the board. (...) <Adam digresses for a moment> Are you serious? The 6807 is worth *that* *much*? It (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Honestly, I don't know, but I can't imagine it would be any other way. (...) <laughing> To me, that's the seller equivalent of the same problem I have with griping about being outbid at the last minute. Unless some really unusual (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But is 5-10 minutes really enough time to make a true difference? What if you're sleeping, or eating dinner, or in a meeting at work, or really really constipated? Or what if you're on a modem and your connection drops a couple times? BTW, (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) And that I have no explanation for. I agree 100%, but I cannot explain this "seduction", nor why it happens to some people and not others. <snip> (...) I understand (and thank you! :) but if using an external auction service is (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess the question there (eBay) is -- if you bid on your own thing on eBay, does it show up as a bid from you, the seller? A seller bidding on his/her own item at eBay shouldn't be evil (still dumb, maybe, but not evil) -- *if* it's clear to (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ^^^...^^^ (not a flame, just a comment) Please be careful about the phrase "lugnet auctions" -- I think what you really meant here is "auctions conducted in the lugnet.market.auction newsgroup." "LUGNET auctions" don't yet exist, but will (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, but a TLG consumer affairs rep gave me the insight that the market has changed since then. The rep tells me today's child market is different, and she sees the definite change (though convenienlty doesn't call it a 'decline') in the (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, bwappo@ee.net (Adam Yulish) writes: [...] (...) I wonder if there are exceptions to this... Certainly if someone has a brand new 6074 Black Falcon's Fortress which typically goes for (say) $100- $150 in auctions, and (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lee has beaten me to my two cents, which is to bring up the one easy way for ebay to escape their reputation of being a sniper haven. If anyone else has participated in an Onsale auction they have experienced this "extension" rule at the end (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) One man's trash... Seriously, while the piece quality of other brands is inferior, some of the sets they are offering are at least as good if not better--especially when you consider the price. I'm not saying (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Only when the competition is (a) competent and (b) putting out superior or nearly superior stuff. If the competition puts out junk, is that an incentive to improve? Early LEGO Town and Castle sets were incredible, for example, and TLG created (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unless they've changed things (and they may very well have), the "hot" graphic appears after an item incurs a certain quantity of bids. (...) I *hope* that becomes the biggest problem. It's much easier to determine how reliable a lego seller (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:43:28 GMT, "Jeff Stembel" <Dragonelf1@aol.com> wrote: <follow-up to .fun> <HHGttG> (...) I can't remember where it was, but I seem to remember it being in there somewhere... I recently found a copy of the original radio (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Never say never" (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I always recommend rats to anyone interested in small pets. At the very least, they don't bite (often). I've been nipped by mice, hamsters, guinea pigs, gerbils, you name it. But our rats (we've had several) have always been great. They don't (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And one that appears, I believe, because the seller agreed to give eBay a bigger cut (someone correct me if I'm wrong). (...) Nope. Profiteers will just claim a set is complete, without having fully verified the contents. Steve (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) absolute (...) be (...) no (...) Desire to be Moral What Desire? Actually this is probably instilled once again from parents, We are told to "Be Good" "You'll get a reward if you do what I say" that sort of thing. It's also probably an (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(No this is not intended to be flame bait) I recently sold several older toys that I had obtained about 15 years ago, and I had _NO_CLUE_ on a value of these. (BTW, they were Zoids by Tomy) The _ONLY_ reason I decided to go with EBay v. direct (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) itself) (...) There is an exception to every rule. Including this one. Holy paradoxical statements, Batman! :) James (URL) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I certainly understand your point of view, but to me, the "big evil" of e-bay is not buying from it, but selling to it. (I go into more detail on other posts - I'll spare people yet another explanation. For now. :) ) Selling on e-bay sends (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <more snipping> (...) Oh, I'm not arguing against the minimum incriment! My point is that its a very seductive trap that e-bay uses (and most auctions, to be fair) to get more money out of the marks. Most people, everytime they're outbid, they (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, No. Not again. Jeff ;) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Reminds me of a little joke I heard a while back ... Person A: There are _NO_ absolutes. Period. Person B: Are you sure? Person A: Absolutely. (for the humor impaired ... the first statement is an absolute in and of itself) -- Lee Jorgensen, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it depends on the auction format and location, but for the most part I believe it falls into the "just evil" category. For those of you that didn't know, if you run an eBay auction without a reserve price, you *are* allowed to bid on (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough. :) Relatively few people receive that cashflow from eBay's operation/existence. Many more receive cashflow and/or save time by finding the items they've been looking for, so I don't consider eBay's money-making for its owners a (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snipped a lot of stuff that has already reached conclusion> (...) I agree. I find that the former appear when selling unusual items, and the latter appear when selling big items. The rest tends to even out. (...) I think (2) only occurs when the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah. (...) Well, at least you've got your priorities straight. (...) I doubt that this is a huge group. (...) Unfortunately, those 'morons' are right. (...) I assume some of them are in this group too, but not the majority. (...) Right, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have a question about this. Is using a shill illegal, or just evil? (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, you have a good point. Perhaps a Supreme Being _IS_ the only absolute. If one were not to acknowledge the existence of such, then there would be no absolutes. I can live with that (atheism). I, however, do not concur, but I do have (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So long, and thanks for all the fish. Jasper "Always insert a few random HHGttG references everywhere" Janssen (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree wholeheartedly with the "more honest" option, but I do so because it renders someone else's "dishonesty" ineffective. They can spend all the time and money they want. Against me, it is either enough or it isn't. No extra money or time (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote: [It's OK to use critter who aren't aware in a meaningful way] (...) I wonder what potentially sentient means. Capable of being 'uplifted?' As steve bliss points out, it is commonly accepted that even domesticated porcine are (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yes James, You are a hypocrit (not a word I normally need to spell). I here nothing good about ebay and have never looked at the site and your comment (5) doesn't help to get rid of ebay. The best thing we can all do is: when people post a message (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The other trouble is, if I'm bidding in multiple auctions, my maximum bid in one auction depends on what I end up spending in other auctions. So I can't (always) put an absolute maximum bid on a lot, and then just wait to see how it turns out. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pigs are actually pretty smart, if I'm remembering correctly. (...) I think all the nets are pretty unsafe, for the tuna. Steve (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good point. We haven't had many shills here (or at least we certainly don't know that we have :-) Warning, circular argument!) I prefer auctions where the bidders are made public, of course. But I think in this tight little community it comes (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's what happens when the glucose runs out for a bit, yes. (...) Didn't I tell you I ate it? (...) Err yeah. It's reference Fe3+ ion, so you know what to measure against. Jasper (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (for (...) Well perhaps it's just me being suspicious because I'm new to all this and not really used to internet auctions yet, but one thing that does worry me about lugnet auctions, where everything is controlled totally be the seller is - (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 42. Jasper (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess there's no reason why you couldn't do that in lugnet auctions, if you tell the seller how much you'll go up to, and the seller is willing to do the auction that way. Simon (URL) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, look at how successful the whole thing is from Wall Street's point of view: eBay's stock has been trading in the $200-$300 range for the past two months. On the day of their IPO last November, several people became instant millionaires (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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