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Re: shills on eBay
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:17:53 GMT
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:57:39 GMT, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman)
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, bwappo@ee.net (Adam Yulish) writes:
> > > > me about lugnet auctions, where everything is controlled totally be the
> > > > seller is - what's to stop a seller from just making up fictitious buyers
> > > > s/he can quote to drive the price up higher? How can I, as a buyer, know
> > >
> > > I have a question about this. Is using a shill illegal, or just evil?
> >
> > I think it depends on the auction format and location, but for the most
> > part I believe it falls into the "just evil" category. For those of you
> > that didn't know, if you run an eBay auction without a reserve price,
> > you *are* allowed to bid on your own auction once. Now, I can't imagine
> > any seller who would (in my not-so-humble opinion) be insane enough to
> > insult his/her buyers by doing that kind of evil instead of using a
> > reserve price auction, but then my opinions and sanity never really
> > matched up very well. :)
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> I guess the question there (eBay) is -- if you bid on your own thing on
> eBay, does it show up as a bid from you, the seller?
Yes it does. I was researching a seller's previous items sold and
noticed once that the seller was also the high bidder on an item. I
questioned the seller and his reply was that a friend without Internet
access wanted the item so he placed the bid for him. Excuses...
excuses...
> A seller bidding on his/her own item at eBay shouldn't be evil (still dumb,
> maybe, but not evil) -- *if* it's clear to all participants the it is the
> seller doing it and not some fictitious bidder. I guess it should just show
> up as though the seller is saying, "Hey, I'm raising the price on this...I
> think I set it too low."
>
> --Todd
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| (...) Don't jump to conclusions... I would be inclined to give the seller the benefit of the doubt. As a case in point, easily 1/3 of the items I bid on in Auczilla VIII were for 'off-line' friends, and that jumped to about 1/2 of my bids for (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: shills on eBay
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| (...) If he was the high bidder what difference does it make? It was his set, and he was the high bidder. He still had to pay the eBay fee, I bet, so if he did sell it to his offline friend things worked the same as if he had sold it to the second (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: shills on eBay
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| (...) I guess the question there (eBay) is -- if you bid on your own thing on eBay, does it show up as a bid from you, the seller? A seller bidding on his/her own item at eBay shouldn't be evil (still dumb, maybe, but not evil) -- *if* it's clear to (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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