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Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving)
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Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:41:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, bwappo@ee.net (Adam Yulish) writes:
[...]
>  In addition, lego commerce happens on two levels: buying/selling, and
> trading. No matter how high or how low the "actual" prices for sets may
> go, the level of trading will remain the same. Set prices could inflate
> to 200%, and the trading field stays level. If people were just
> interested in one theme, then things would be unreasonably imbalanced
> between themes, but there are way too many people into lego to worry
> about theme inbalance. RTL/Lugnet and the Internet as a whole has long
> since surpassed the prerequisite critical mass necessary for theme
> balance.

I wonder if there are exceptions to this...  Certainly if someone has a
brand new 6074 Black Falcon's Fortress which typically goes for (say) $100-
$150 in auctions, and someone else has a brand new 6980 Galaxy Commander
which typically goes for the same amount (say), then a trade would be
equitable...

But if someone wants to trade a brand new 6074 Black Falcon's Fortress
($35 set from '86) for a brand new 6807 (unnamed $2 European Space set from
'85), then the person giving up the 6074 is getting a great deal while the
person giving up the 6807 is getting ripped off by $50 or $100 (or more).

(OK, well, "ripped off" is relative -- since maybe both people are pleased
with the trade.)

The point is, unless the fair market values of the items being traded are
reasonably equal, a trade really isn't a fair trade; even in pure trading,
the cumulative side-effects of buying/selling/auctioning play a role.

Some additional data:  A couple years ago, someone was kind enough, upon
discovering a previously unknown very small Space set, to offer it to me
before putting it up for auction or soliciting other trade offers.  We'd
done a few trades/sales in the past and trusted each other and I also
happened to have an old set he had on his want list.  I thought his offer
(of granting the right of first refusal) was *extremely* kind, and we worked
out a trade valuing the set at ~$400 US.  I think I paid for in part using
cash or other LEGO sets, including another older Canadian/European-only
Space set.  So basically, in this case, the trade was super-lopsided in
terms of the original prices, but quite fair (I hope) in terms of current
fair market values.  I think we were both very pleased with the trade.

--Todd



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  Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving)
 
(...) I suppose exceptions are possible, but other than momentary fluctuations, The general "level" of set worth continues to be pretty even across the board. (...) <Adam digresses for a moment> Are you serious? The 6807 is worth *that* *much*? It (...) (28 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving)
 
<snipped a lot of stuff that has already reached conclusion> (...) I agree. I find that the former appear when selling unusual items, and the latter appear when selling big items. The rest tends to even out. (...) I think (2) only occurs when the (...) (28 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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