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(...) I think I presented this poorly. I was trying to articulate a few basic reasons for worship, and my problems with those reasons. Anyway, doesn't God require worship, at least to achieve the professed reward? I'm not saying that a (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't agree at all. It's this 'do right 'cause you're a Christian' that disenfranchises others from seeing what is, I believe, true Christianity. I try to do good works because it is the right thing to do (more later). Whether that comes (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The issue was not that the Samaritan woman was or wasn't a Jew. It was that she was not a Hebrew, and therefore a Gentile, and therefore supposedly racially inferior to all the people who crossed to the other side of the street. Besides, when (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I see the difference between worthless and meaningless in this context, but I'll take it up as a vocabulary lesson later. (...) Who gives purpose to God? You do. The argument is circular. Why not cut out the invisible middleman? (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You should, or else Dave! is correct. (...) You should, or else Dave! is correct. (...) Not at all the same. I still don't have a satisfactory answer from atheists to the question "why do good?" (from a personal standpoint rather than some (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I could, but that sounds very uninteresting to me. And part of my problem with the BT is that depictions of Biblical stories using LEGO minifigs tend to mock them (the stories, that is:-) LEGO sculptures of a creche, for instance, are okay. (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I repent! But give me no penance, sinner. (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I do usually concur with your assessments... I don't go "I'm contributing to this charity *because* I'm a Christian!" or "I'm helping this little old lady across the street *because* of my Christian values!" Much like, I suppose, you (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's actually about the best argument for atheism that I've ever heard a non-atheist put forth. If we as individuals accept the responsibility of caring for the planet and for each other during our fleeting time here, then what more is (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Boy, have you got it wrong! The real question is "Why do almost all religious discussions in ot.debate inevitably start out as discussions of other subjects?" Dave! (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don, you completely miss the boat in your analysis. I said life without God, is meaningless. Meaning, God gives our lives purpose, God gives us hope, God gives us strength to carry on each day; to live. Without that motivation, what is the (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Teddy Welsh" <ewelsh@wsc.ma.edu> wrote in message news:I40H0H.1yKv@lugnet.com... (...) Great idea! And while we're at it, I'd like to suggest the following groups be made to further separate people away from the reason why we come to lugnet in the (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org) !
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well. This isn't how I would usually choose to out myself, but....I feel obliged to make some kind of response. I am a long time lego fan, and I live a gay lifestyle. Although it is usually not discussed, most people who know me also know this, or (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Off the top of my head: "Why do almost all discussions in lugnet.off-topic.debate inevitably turn into discussions of religion?" (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, technically you are correct: I regard Bush as sunk, not sinking. Though I suppose you could be refering to the polls and not how history will judge him, which may lead to your confusion on that front. (...) Can't say how many, but (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You weren't listening....I said sinking, stinking, garbage barge:-) You know, I have criticisms of Republicans, too, but you all have that angle covered, so my input is extreneous! (...) How much does it pay? :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You defend Bush all the time, so evidentily you don't practice as you preach. :-). (...) Being a slacker and a professional prevaricator is your ambition in life? :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why? For starters... (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Which ones? Chris (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course they weren't--that's what makes the parable so good-- See Jesus says that the 'God' folk passed on helping the beat up sod in the gutter, but the Samaritan, without being a believer, was the only one who had the compassion to help (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) However, daily I read news items like -- (URL) mean, a person gets fired over a bumper sticker? I'm sure that if someone were to do some research, they'd find someone who may have been shown the door 'cause they had a 'Bush/Cheney' sticker on (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Without trying to dilute your point, which I find quite valid, I have to say that your question piqued my curiousity. So, for what it's worth. A quick search via Google got me this page: (URL) it is claimed that the Samaritans adopted old (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, I'm merly attempting to point out in my own inept way that the sentiments expressed by John are strikingly similar those used by used by the terrorists to justify their actions. Draw all the spiritual support you need, but don't use it to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All right then, why don't you simply address the worthless part and forget about the proximity to that particular date. Hey, I've got an idea. Since the worthless comment stemmed from an argument over the pictoral interpretation of the bible (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Here's the lesson that Americans should learn as a result of the controversy over George Bush's service in the National Guard, Libertarians say: When governments wage futile, unnecessary wars -- such as Vietnam and Iraq -- young Americans will try (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ummm....well...what can I say, I've always had weakness for red-heads, and to be fair, Sandlin's sexual appeal crosses all gender boundaries. -Keith (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Read below. (...) No, no, not at all. My secret suspicion was that you could never worship any kind of god. I think I was correct by your responses below... (...) Never said worship was required. Besides, if it is your ideal God, then He (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah I did a MOC a few years ago: (2 URLs) And for the record, I'm not gay - I personally find this whole discussion rather silly, and disappointed it's on LUGNET. Seems about as pertinent as my suggesting there be a NWGWDAG (nerdy white guys (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This is "staunch"? (URL) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Teddy, I thought Belville was the Gay newsgroup? Wait a minute...Gays have the power of invisibility?! Cooool. As a man with a record of staunch heterosexuality...well...except for that junior-high towell snapping incident that got out of (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Are you suggesting that having drawn spiritual support on 9-11-2001, as millions of Christians did [1], from a God who is coincidentally shared with two other major religions essentially means they supported the terrorist attacks? Wow, (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How about this-- I didn't write it on Sept 11th (in my time zone), so your point is moot AFAIAC JOHN (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How can it? CBS refuses to release it for scrutiny! And besides, they only have photocopies... (...) Did they even check the veracity of the memos? Their supposed "expert" is even distancing himself from them! It's hack journalism at best. (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not so much an attack as a rib. Why defend a sinking, stinking, garbage barge? (...) I wish I were! It appears to be the easiest job around these days;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Village People are gay!? (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That was never really a concern to me. Nothing in the original post stated that as an intention, nor did I assume it would be. (...) Indeed. I never really thought of it as something relevant to the art of building with Lego. True it may (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:I43pKt.LII@lugnet.com... (...) Bah! At least they're ever mentioned by the media either one. Show me a single poll by a major news outlet that lists a "third party" candidate as an option. (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) why, oh why do we always have to have a "gay side" to everything in society? isn't it enough that we see homosexuality in all forms of media on a daily basis? how does anyone corellate sexual orientation with lego building? it doesn't make (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org) !
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(...) I agree with you Allister. If there was a gay newsgroup on LUGNET, and someone posted sexual material (of whatever preference), then that would be in violation of the TOS. But if people posting to a gay LUGNET newsgroup never mentioned (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, but as far as I'm concerned you still haven't properly addressed that ill timed and extremely insensitive (URL) worthless> comment. (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You edited out everything but what was convenient to your attack and you think you won't be called on it? You missed your calling, John, you should be heading the election to re-elect Bush. :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ideaology. People don't want to believe that their candidate can do any wrong because the alternative is electing a guy that they disagree with. So, they stick their head in the sand, and pretend like these things aren't fundamental flaws that (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I beg your pardon, but has the document been proven to be a forgery? And, if so, has CBS been shown to have had foreknowledge that it was forged? No? Then it's not at all inaccurate to refer to it as a "possibly incorrect aspect of a (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ROTFLMAO! Oops. Am I going to get into acro-trouble again??? :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: (snip) (...) A "possibly incorrect aspect of a news story"? You missed your calling, Dave!-- you shoulda been a whirling physician:-) JOHN (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) let me see if I have this straight. Robert Novak, a stain on the fabric of humanity, faces no pressure for his deliberate and knowing leak of a CIA operative's name (a Federal crime) in an apparent effort to intimidate a critic of Bush, and (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A quick Brickshelf search reveals this one as well: (URL) sure I've seen others out there. Since minifig designs already exist for cowboys and Indians, construction workers, police, etc, this is pretty straightforward. Bruce (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Jeez, you Canadians don't know anything. Americans like Bush because "he keeps us safe," "he's a likeable guy," and "he has strong morals and values." All right, the real reasons are these: he has terrified most Americans into believing that (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) I know that sometimes my grammar is atrocious, but those paragraphs were just horrible! Eh, whatever... Dave K (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In this case, repetition obviously doesn't teach the donkey-- Looking back at the companies that Dubya the Idiot was in charge of, looking at his record in the forces, and his personal life, a la cocaine and alcohol, and yet he still became (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I should have read the paper this morning - the secretray thing was on the fold and I tossed the paper in the car without reading it. Interesting. She doesn't confirm the memos as real, but confirms Bush's commanding officer's opinions (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I like what the officer's secretary said (paraphrasing)... "those memos are obviously fake, because I didn't type them, and men just didn't do secretaries work back then... but the ideas they express are obviously true" But again, does this (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I remember my friend who had an IBM Selectric in 1974 or 75. He did proportional typing and superscripting. Alas, I no longer have any examples of his messages, but I remember the superscripting looked different - I don't know if that was (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. Perhaps a new group is needed? :-O Scott A (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well sure, but that's the whole desire of the Bush camp, isn't it? Don't pay any attention to the issues relevant to Dubya's competence or fitness for leadership; simply focus on whether or not a "th" could or couldn't have been superscripted (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sure, you can change the subject and Move On to that stuff if you want, but I meant the interesting implications of the forgeries, alluded to by the "secret plot" bit in the subject header. I suppose it's possible that this is all just a silly (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You mean like his cocaine abuse, his as yet untreated alcoholism, his obvious Daddy Issues, his inability to accept responsibility for anything, and his inability to keep from failing at any business venture not expressly handled on his (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But of course: (URL) sure there are others too. I had a "leathermen and drag queens" fighting force for the first VLC Brikwars-type game a few years ago - the game writeup is here but I don't see any good pics :-( (URL) this is back on-topic (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As much as she seems to like taking shots at anyone and everyone (she did, after all, blame both Bush and Canada for that huge blackout last year, in spite of the fact that Bush wasn't really any more culpable than Clinton, and Canada had (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, I think we're in agreement but it's not coming out clear. My point is why do we need to have a separate group for gay MOCs (not sure what a gay MOC would be). There is pretty much an correct group for pretty much any MOC, including (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I had a conversation with fellow rtlTers about this very thing-- "Hey, what if some gay person showed up at our train show?" Who cares? "What if he or she brought a rainbow coloured LEGO brick boxcar to put on the layout?" First of all, that'd (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is there if you look. I hate stereotypes, but it is about time this guy came out: (URL) A “construction worker” with white slacks and meticulous moustache? ;) Scott A PS Has anyone done the village people in Lego? (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm guessing an outsider who just wanted to bilk CBS. Or maybe an outsider who thought they could harm Bush. But not a member of any fairly well organized group, or it would have come up that they couldn't hope to pull the forgeries off. (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I happen to not understand why the homosexual AFOLs would want to ghettoize themselves that way either. And I'm not going to cry about it if there's no support for creating such a club. It doesn't affect me particularly. AND, I think it's (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don't try and turn this into a genophopic issue. Sex is a family-safe topic. The only reason such discussion doesn't belong here is because the owners say so. (...) I'm not willing to reduce myself to the lowest common denominator of thought (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, I have mixed views on this but I'm pretty sure Ed is a nice guy who would not want to offend anyone and he would make sure all his posts fell within the ToS. So before we talk about what is "family-safe", why not cancel your posts which (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just as a point of interest, this can be easily recreated in lego for your name tag: (URL) And i've seen it at Brickfest the last couple of years. Subtle, and those not in the know probably wouldn't even notice. Troy (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org, FTX)
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(...) Oh please. Don't tell me you actually believe they're real. I know you're just being argumentative. (URL) just agree that Bush most likely did benefit from family influence in the Vietnam era and move on to the interesting stuff. The obviously (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It isn't. By the same token it isn't *NECESSARY* to discuss religion and how it relates to LEGO, but that occurs pretty much every time Rev Brendan posts an update. I would welcome posts from LGBT AFOLs about their MOCs etc. That said, I see (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) The evidence is voluminous, but here is the most recent I've seen: === By PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News HOUSTON – The former secretary for the Texas Air National Guard colonel who supposedly authored memos critical of President (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's worth remembering. I can produce a real-looking pre-1985 dollar bill in Photoshop, but that hardly proves that the next 1984 dollar bill you receive came off of my desktop. After all, the Shroud of Turin can be reproduced with relative (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfortunately I did not realise that link changes day by day. It's changed this afternoon to a new article. The article I was referring to was this one: (URL) for any confusion. Note that midway through the article it has a very nice animated (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) On what basis do you conclude that these documents are forgeries? I remind you that the claims re: non-availability of font-type; non-availability of proportional spacing; and non-availability of super-script have all been thoroughly refuted. (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (note that my agreement with James is my own opinion and shouldn't be confused with the collective opinion of any groups I represent or am part of) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I really don't think Teddy was asking for a group in which to hold explicit sexual discussion. Of course outside interests have an impact on what you do with your LEGO hobby. I imagine most of the train guys are fans of real trains. I build a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.org)
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(...) Agreed 100%. -Tim (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Somebody has it in for Dan Rather and CBS. The documents are clearly forgeries meant to make DR and CBS look silly. They have been had, and how! Now, here is the problem: if CBS admits the docs are fake, they will be ethically bound to reveal (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They're clearly forgeries, but the fun part now is developing the best conspiracy theory. I don't think your MS-IBM conspiracy is gonna work, but there are plenty of other whoppers to choose from. They have some nifty samples here. (URL) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the point was that why should sexual orientation of any kind be a topic on a LEGO hobby site such as LUGNET. I believe it's the love of LEGO that has brought us together on here, beyond that I don't think we need to single out folks (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don't try and turn this into a homophobic issue. Topics WRT to sex are inappropriate for a family-safe site like LUGNET (save off-topic.debate) (...) You can respect the desires of some parents who don't wish their children exposed to these (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Now there's a topic worthy of off-topic.debate! (...) I agree! Parents should feel comfortable, knowing that no topics contained herein will harm their children. It is a very serious shame that many parents are so confused aout right and wrong and (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm from the same mind set. LUGNET is about LEGO. Not cooking and LEGO, not water skiing and LEGO. Just LEGO. Why is it necessary to discuss sexual orientation and how it relates to LEGO here on LUGNET? The LUGNET community is a family affair (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. I've always found the lack of sexual and sexuality topics here on LUGNET (and the LEGO hobby as a whole) refreshing. I get enough of that from the media and other places in my life, it's nice to get a break from it and just enjoy the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. But can you blame them? They saw what happened to the last revolutionaries (post Gulf War I) that were egged on by Bush Senior, then left twisting in the wind. You can say they should have tried again, and you'd be probably right, but (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well that's a crazy headline isn't it... but no crazier than some in the regular media I'm surprised to see no mention yet here of "rathergate" as it is being called in the blogosphere. Were the memos about Bush's service that CBS 60 minutes ran a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure. They chose not to overthrow Hussein and install a proper rule-of-law system. Isn't that the same thing? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As this is directly topical for LUGNET discussion, and there's not even anything to debate, it doesn't belong in .off-topic.debate. Right? And if you do start a club, wouldn't it fall under the .org. hierarchy? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Bush would never upset his friends. (...) Well a certain "mordern country" is assiting human rights abuses in countries like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Yemen & Pakistan whilst breaking internatioanl law itself. What does that have to do with (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hi teddy, I have absolutely no problems with me being gay in this community. But I'd love to be a Lavender Brickette :-) Since I'm in the Netherlands, I don't have any issues with acceptance or something, but it would be nice to exchange thoughts (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Personally I don't see the reason to start labelling people into groups such as this, I can't see why just everyone regardless of who they are, where they are from and what they look like can't just do the same as everyone else, why does (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
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(...) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does sexual preference have to do with building with Lego? I always saw it as a fairly asexual enterprise. Am I missing a whole field of exploration here? Allister (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've been kicking an idea around for a while, and I wanted to put it out to the community: I'd like to start an organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered (LGBT) AFOLs. A lavender brick society, if you like. It's seemed to me that (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org) !!
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(URL) to me how eliminating direct popular election of governors and Duma members will help fight terror? One part Putin has right: "The Russian president said that terrorism is rooted in the low living standards in the North Caucasus, in widespread (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How so? (And I ask this sincerely!) (...) My spider-sense tells me that this is an attempt to trick me into formulating an ontological argument for God's existence, but I'll give it a try anyway. First of all, I'm not sure that I would worship (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Only if you choose to define it that way. I used to work with a Christian who said something like "if emotions are just chemical reactions, aren't they meaningless?" Well, sure. Insofar as I attach no truly transcendent, metaphysical "meaning" (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bruce gave a good refutation of this, and in any case the buck doesn't stop with everyone else--it stops with Dubya. If he endorsed the intelligence report, then he, as the highest link in the chain, bears primary responsibility for the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I think the current situation with regard to a rea/ideal god does exist. I don't bother him and he doesn't bother me. But if I were to answer: He would show himself. He would provide a quid pro quo deal that I can understand. He (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: [snip] Excuse the paraphrase, but did you just say something like, "Life without Allah is worthless." On Septermber 11th? Wow. (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And for a Christian to (URL) mock or criticize non-believers by calling their lives worthless>, I would have to question motives. Get down off your high horse, please John. ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:I3tB8E.L00@lugnet.com... (...) So if the motive for criticizing or poking fun at the Bible could *possibly* be traced to intolerance or bigotry then it is immoral? It doesn't seem to me that The Brick (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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