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Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:37:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
   Excuse the paraphrase, but did you just say something like,

“Life without Allah is worthless.”

On Septermber 11th? Wow.

   Are you suggesting that having drawn spiritual support on 9-11-2001, as millions of Christians did 1, from a God who is coincidentally shared with two other major religions essentially means they supported the terrorist attacks? Wow, yourself.

No, I’m merly attempting to point out in my own inept way that the sentiments expressed by John are strikingly similar those used by used by the terrorists to justify their actions. Draw all the spiritual support you need, but don’t use it to justify killing.

Look, if you assign zero worth to something, it’s not all that far from negative worth. That’s the leap of faith the terrorists made. Don’t go there.

Don, you completely miss the boat in your analysis. I said life without God, is meaningless. Meaning, God gives our lives purpose, God gives us hope, God gives us strength to carry on each day; to live. Without that motivation, what is the purpose of life? To quote an atheist Bertrand Russell: “Unless you assume a God, the question of life’s purpose is meaningless.”

Now, what is so diabolical about the terrorists is that they believe in God, and still their conclusion is that life is worthless! Seems to me that my statement and their beliefs are diametrically opposed. To me, live is the greatest gift we have been given. To them it is nothing, to be pissed away in a manner that takes others’ lives in the process.

So any type of clever equivocation on your part is simply wrong thinking.

JOHN



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  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
(...) I'm not sure I see the difference between worthless and meaningless in this context, but I'll take it up as a vocabulary lesson later. (...) Who gives purpose to God? You do. The argument is circular. Why not cut out the invisible middleman? (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
(...) No, I'm merly attempting to point out in my own inept way that the sentiments expressed by John are strikingly similar those used by used by the terrorists to justify their actions. Draw all the spiritual support you need, but don't use it to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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