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Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
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No, Im merly attempting to point out in my own inept way that
the sentiments expressed by John are strikingly similar those used
by used by the terrorists to justify their actions. Draw all
the spiritual support you need, but dont use it to justify killing.
Look, if you assign zero worth to something, its not all that far
from negative worth. Thats the leap of faith the terrorists made.
Dont go there.
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Its also not that far from positive worth. Most Christians see it from that
perspective, which is why there are so many Christian missionaries around the
world. Most of the Christians who dont see it from that perspective are either
just using it as an excuse to not associate with those people (i.e. the
holier-than-thou attitude), or they are fomenting unrest in the name of
something other than religion (like the racial superiority claims of the Ku Klux
Klan). Radical Islamic fundamentalists, on the other hand, have adopted the
submit-or-die mentality seen during the Spanish Inquisition, ostensibly as a
means of eventually converting the world to Islam (well, thats probably what a
lot of the suicide bombers have been duped into believing).
I think the primary difference here is whether you approach it from the idea
that, My life is not worth me living without my god, or from the idea
that, Your life is not worth you living without my god, that determines
whether you will make an effort to improve the lives of others or snuff them out
like a candle in the darkness.
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