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Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:39:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
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So instead of a half empty glass, you see it as completely empty?
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Not my original analogy, so Im restricted to revising it using the terms
provided. You were the one who introduced the idea of Zero Worth/Empty
Glass.
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To be filled with either holy water or poison. I say youre wrong.
The glass is already half full and the beverage is tasty.
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An empty glass cannot, by definition, be full of poison. The point I was
trying to make is that proselytizing missionaries are attempting to fill
empty glasses with said holy water, rather than trying to destroy them with
poison like radical religious terrorists.
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What? I thought we were talking about the value of folks with no
god. You left that part out.
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As I said, it depends a lot on what perspective you look at it from. If you
feel that you need God in your life to have value, youre more likely to want
to elevate others to your same level. If you go around looking down on
others as being worthless because they dont get it, then youre more
likely to easily persuaded into persecuting them. However, it has been
clearly demonstrated, both on LUGNET, and in historical situations, that many
atheists/agnostics feel the same way about a religion-free life, believing
that not needing God makes life more worth living, and that what members of
organized religions would view as Holy Water is actually Poison.
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Kinda reminds me of a ST:TNG ep.. :)
Not that that particular ep. hasnt been mentioned here before...
Dave K
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