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In lugnet.build.ancient, Tim Courtney wrote:
> In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> > In lugnet.build.ancient, Brendan Powell Smith wrote:
> > > In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> >
> > > > Anyway, illustrators can put a spin on things the same way a
> > > > politician can.
> > >
> > > I won't arue with that, but I do think that it's a lot easier to spin the
> > > stories when you completely put them in your own words, leaving parts out, and
> > > adding parts not in the original, which is what every other illustrated Bible
> > > I've ever seen does.
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with that assessment, but that still doesn't mean that you haven't put
> > your own spin on things.
>
> I'd agree with Bruce here, and also note that every other illustrated Bible also
> inserts its own spin/commentary in its illustrations.
>
> I think the BT rocks, but I disagree that the illustrations don't carry any
> commentary about the text or the Bible itself. They have to by definition - were
> it a reprint of the text and nothing more, it would be without commentary.
> However, you're artistically interpreting it, and though that may be cool, its
> still an interpretation and as such contains the artist's commentary.
>
> I'm a bit uncomfortable with the continued assertion that it is done without
> inserting commentary. Brendan, I don't think you mean harm by it, but I do think
> it has the potential to be misleading.
I just wan't to be clear: when I wrote "I won't argue that" above, what I am NOT
arguing or contesting is that illustrators like me can put a spin on things.
So, Tim, to say you agree with Bruce on this issue is also to be in agreement
with me.
I'm not sure who you see as making "the continued assertion that it is done
without inserting commentary", as that is not my view. My only point above, and
one that we might or might not agree on is this: those who paraphrase or
completely rewrite Bible stories are far more prone toward spin than someone who
quote verses directly.
I'm setting the follow-up to off-topic.debate even though I'm not sure we're
actually debating anything at this point. :)
-Brendan
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