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Re: Worthlessness
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:11:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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A quick search via Google got me this page:
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/samaritan.htm
where it is claimed that the Samaritans adopted old testament beliefs in the
first century BC. Depending on how far back the parable went, perhaps they
were and perhaps they were not jewish. But in any case they were almost
certainly not christian at the time that Jesus told the parable.
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The issue was not that the Samaritan woman was or wasn’t a Jew. It was that
she was not a Hebrew, and therefore a Gentile, and therefore supposedly
racially inferior to all the people who crossed to the other side of the
street. Besides, when that parable was told, noone was officially a
“Christian”. Jesus and all of his apostles followed the Jewish faith, and
for quite a long time after the crucifiction they termed themselves
“Christian Jews”. It wasn’t until the leaders of the Jewish religion
threatened them with something akin to excommunication if they didn’t
renounce their belief in Jesus as the messiah that they fully separated into
an independant religion. It’s been about ten years since I studied this,
but, IIRC, that process took until sometime between 200-400AD to result in
what we would recognize as Christianity.
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Hey, thanks for clearing all that up.
Don merely asked whether they were believers or not, but all that extra
background is great stuff.
I also learned something else interesting. You think the Samaritan was a
woman... the King James version of the NT has the Samaritan as a man. I wonder
if there’s a message in there somewhere, or if that’s just one of those
translation idiosyncracies between versions that people always stumble over.
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| (...) As far as I can tell, the Samaritan is conventionally credited as a man, but the earliest version I can remember hearing as a wee tot in Sunday School (yes, with feltboard images and everything) was a woman (which is probably why I always (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The issue was not that the Samaritan woman was or wasn't a Jew. It was that she was not a Hebrew, and therefore a Gentile, and therefore supposedly racially inferior to all the people who crossed to the other side of the street. Besides, when (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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