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Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:06:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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> > His record in office is identical to his past performances anywhere else. Yet
> > he's ahead in the polls. So obviously it matters not about his past
> > performance, his current performance, the American people aren't paying
> > attention to any of that.
> >
> > So what exactly are the Americans paying attention to?
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> Jeez, you Canadians don't know anything. Americans like Bush because "he keeps
> us safe," "he's a likeable guy," and "he has strong morals and values."
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> All right, the real reasons are these: he has terrified most Americans into
> believing that some dirty Arab will kill us all in our sleep unless Bush is in
> office; he's successfully masqueraded as an amiable everyman despite his
> family's generations of uber-wealthy privilege, and he has successfully postured
> himself as a man of God despite his lifetime of excess and his complete
> rejection of the Beatitudes, among other New Testament wisdom.
>
> In short, a large number of Americans have irresponsibly based their conclusions
> about Bush on the fabrications put forth by him, by his adminstration, and by
> the very Bush-Friendly "Liberal" Media.
>
> At this point, some mothercheney-er like O'Reilly would indignantly sputter "You
> hear that, folks? Schuler thinks you're all stupid."
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> Well, not really. I don't think that people are organically stupid, but I think
> that they often do not have the means or desire to undertake a thorough analysis
> of the facts.
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> A thirty-year-old mom&pop land deal in Arkansas? That's worth spending millions
> to investigate a President.
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> A thirty-year-old shirking of one's duty while others died for Bush's cowardice?
> No way, we can't waste time on that--it's in the past, and we've got an
> unwinnable War on Terra to win!
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> Dave!
However, daily I read news items like --
http://slate.msn.com/id/2106714/
I mean, a person gets fired over a bumper sticker? I'm sure that if someone
were to do some research, they'd find someone who may have been shown the door
'cause they had a 'Bush/Cheney' sticker on their car, and that would be equally
outrageous...
But it's not just the administration, run by the incompotent Dubya the Idiot,
but people who own companies pushing their political will on the employees...
And the retroactive redacting of events... John said in this very forum that
everyone was mislead into thinking that Saddam had WMD's before the war started.
Completely untrue--I think I stated here before the war that I didn't believe
it, that Blix and Co. should have been given the opportunity to support or
refute that claim. I went to a peace rally in The Big Smoke with millins of my
closest friends for a demonstration against what was then an upcoming fiasco of
tremendous proportions. They didn't believe it, either, nor did those millions
of other folks participating in demonstrations all over the world. They didn't
believe it, yet now we here from John and the spokespersons of the
administration and many media outlets that 'everyone thought he had WoMD'...
Where does this 'brainwashing' come from? Where did the backbone of the
'everyday man' go? What happened to 'standing up against the man' like they did
at Berkeley in the '60's... Where are the Woodward and Bernstein's of todays
generation? Are we so complacent in our comfort zones that we won't stand up to
these outrageous injustices committed in the name of Dubya for fear of losing
our, what? Big Macs and wide screen tellys?
She lost her job over a bumper sticker. It wasn't an obscene bumper sticker, it
wasn't ani-establishment, it was 'Kerry/Edwards '04'. Unless there was a stated
policy of no political bumper stickers (and I'm sure there were a few
'Idiot/Crashcart '04' stickers in the parking lot), then she did nothing wrong.
But she still lost her job. Sure Kerry, in a fit of 'oh isn't htis a political
plus for me', hired her, but where's the outrage over the firing?
The accountability of folks in authority, politically, or even in the media, is
non-existant--what was that this week? Fox News is now legally allowed to lie
with impunity? Oh My Goodness. Forget the first ammendment--no wait, use the
first ammendment--it doesn't give you the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded
theatre--that should also encompass 'vote for Kerry and the terrorists win'.
Use the first to shut these morons down.
I dunno. Something happened between the '60's and today. The apathy is
extraordinary.
How the mighty have fallen.
America, wake up and give your heads a collective shake.
Dave K
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