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(...) Why not? The scientific method works. Look at the marvels and wonders it's produced. What lasting contribution to human progress have those oral traditions given us? (1) (...) In what way was he more than a man? (beware of circular arguments) (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's certainly a matter of interpretation. Were I more than normally interested in baiting you I'd say GIGO, but I won't. I will merely say that the Bible is not an easy read and that scholars do a great deal of debating about what errors (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I see your point. It wasn't my intention to try to add veracity by saying something like "that many people can't be wrong" I just meant that people still talk about 1 man who lived 2000 years ago and follow his message. Why? (...) Yes, of (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Saying that Jesus was the most influencial human that ever lived is IMO one of those statements that sounds reasonable at first, but doesn't really stand up to close analysis. Influencing (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Bible isn't a proof text. It's a collection of many different traditions, most of them oral. Don't be so "Western Culture, how did it happen, is it true, what are the facts". The fact is that the ancient world didn't care for such things, (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, OK. So what else in the bible is just a story, then, and what is true, if anything? None of the old, and all of the new testament? Or something different? And what's the basis for your sorting? AFAIAC, Jesus being the son of god is just a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who *really* knows? I'm more interested in living life here and now on earth. We'll all find out the hard way soon enough as it is;-) (...) As I mentioned before, it is the view in a book by CS Lewis entitled The Great Divorce. It's a story (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, let me first say that I am a Christian, which is to say that I follow the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was the Jewish Messiah who came from God to teach us about Him and about how to live. His nature (man/God) is a mystery which cannot be (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (about Job) (...) into (...) assumes (...) addresses (...) fair, (...) John, I'm intrigued. In all the discussions I've followed here, you appear to have been arguing from the Christian point of (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that there (...) because they (...) will. They (...) love of (...) their (...) But if it's they're decision, doesn't that imply they would have the power to reverse that decision? Christian theologies may differ on interpretation of hell, but (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley wrote: ???!! I never said anything about burning, literary or no. What I said was that there are people who would *choose* to not be with God (my definition of Heaven) because they *hate* the light and love the darkness. It is *their* (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you're saying that you believe that people will literally burn for all eternity in Hell? That God, in his infinite wisdom, knowledge, love, and compassion, could actually allow that to happen? Why? What possible point could there be for (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There should be enough people that I can stand on top of a bunch of them, and clear the surface. Steve (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. Good question. I think the answer is, "nothing in the Bible addresses this point". But to talk about it anyway: it's not enough to ask for forgiveness. It's a condition for salvation, but not main cause of salvation. The real reason (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's a story. Didn't really happen. It is, however, a fascinating insight into the development of the Jewish concept of God. An immature belief in God assumes that the good in this world would get rewarded, and the bad punished. That's fair, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That story has always bugged me too. I don't really see how some people see it as one that makes God look good. Satan basically ego-trips him into letting him royally dump on Job, and God, who is supposed to be so loving of his creation, let's (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley wrote:But COME ON, eternal damnation? I'm supposed to believe that an (...) Think of it this way, Mike. God isn't the one doing the damning. There are people who hate the light and love darkness. Even faced with God in His glory, *they (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I assume you're joking. If not, I'm not so sure Greek mythology was "believable" but it sure is more fun. Purely Roman mythology, the stuff that they didn't just rename/incorporate from the Greeks, can be interesting too. (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks. I appreciate your recognising it as such. Really. (...) Whereas the alternative is to say you have no faith in them? How very elitist of you. Next I suppose you'll be telling me that government can make better decisions about my life (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wasn't Job the guy that God bet the Devil about how unshakable his faith was? I'll have no truck with a god that would do such a thing as allow another deity to throw his worst at me just to settle a bet. (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) it. (...) I agree about the "painting", Mike. At least Greek and Roman mythology were "believable". -- Have fun! John AUCTION Page (More soon!) (URL) Page (URL) wp,dm,rk,df++ fk-]++++(6035) SW,TR,old(456)+++ (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A LOT of Christians don't believe Hell is just the absence of God (eternal lonliness maybe, or do you mean annihilation?) - they literally believe it is a real lake of fire into which all the bad people will be thrown, to burn and be tortured (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, what if Satan just suddenly gave up? Admitted he was a jerk and wrong, and honestly (how could you hide it from God?) asked for forgiveness? Or was his original crime, way back when, so bad that he's too far gone? Or is he the pefectly (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmmmm.... my sigs have evolved over time. They started out being the main sure-fire way someone could find out the number to S@H and the web address of the specials page. I wouldn't call that wasteful junk. Now they point people to one of two (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What, no winkies? I hope you're kidding, because you sound like the Church Fathers in the first millenium discussing how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. A lot of nonsense. In my experience, there is no personified Devil, only the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:37bb87d1.204022...net.com... (...) things (...) there (...) end (...) Isn't that Faust? Interestingly, every time that play resurfaced in a new era it had a different ending. There's the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've kind of always wondered: Is this mainly applicable for when bad things happen to good people? Or is He also there for someone who has done something really really bad? I mean, like, say someone makes a pact with the Devil. (I saw this in (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37B9F885.8F93F0...ger.net... (...) What a very Libertarian statement. It exudes great faith in the masses. I can't say I'd agree, given the popularity of, well, just about every fad ever to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7rmim9.4dt....UTK.EDU... (...) Ideally the worst times are the times that gloify Him the most, as it gives you a chance to display your faith in Him aven though life sucks (think Job). (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting quote. If the Lord puts me in whatever situations he wants, so he'll receive the praise/glory/worship/whatever when things turn out well, what does that say about the situations I end up in from time to time when all Hell (no pun (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's fine then. What you like yourself is your own biz and that's as it should be. You are the best judge of what YOU like, after all, unless there's something sick and wrong (quoting John Neal) with you :-). But I thought we were (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:37bac394.436675...net.com... (...) I catch myself using that one (dating myself a bit, unfortunately) sometimes. I'm more concerned about getting in trouble than offending someone, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is just _so_ gay.[1] Jasper "I live under bridges" Janssen (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As determined by _me_. Duh. Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jeff, (...) I never tried it. Is it hard to set up? (...) I loved the game just because the "EVIL" corporation was trying to suck the planet dry. Heh-heh. (...) Any help would be greatly appreciated! :) (...) Yes, I remember now! (...) OK! (...) (...) (25 years ago, 13-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hehe.. I like Anime(1) and AD&D, too. :) So, have you ever tried an emulator? I'm currently playing the Fully translated Seiken Densetsu 3, and it rocks! ;) (...) No, but my neighbor did. Its odd, because you can't get it(2) before the third (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wish you wouldn't encourage him like that, Tim;-) (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) LOL! :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Macintosh: Machine Always Crashes If Not The Operating System Hangs (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oh, Larry. :) Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ya, but Lego is actually "useful" compared to a Mac. <grins, ducks and runs> (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why not? It's nice to see someone who seems to have the same passions as I: Lego's, video games, etc. (...) You got hers? I don't remember her too much, I finished the game, and have not played it since. (...) I liked FF Mystic Quest, kind of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's nothing. Apple buried all their leftover inventory of Macintosh XL computers (thousands of upgraded Lisas originally worth US$ 10,000 each) because their accountants told them it would be better for their bottom line than giving them to (...) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I was sorta refering to the standard FF7 debate and the Emulation debate. What the heck, lets start one. :) What are everyone's opinions on emulation? Many of the games played on emulators are not available anymore or were never (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suspect it has. I have always seen the phrase (or similar ones) in a context that is racist, but towards whites, not vice versa. In my experience, "mighty white of ya" is usually (contextually) an implication of dishonest dealing. (giving (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thanks. That supports my contention that the phrase is insulting to non whites. It may have transmuted in meaning over time... (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jeff, Uh-oh, I opened up another can of worms. :) I understand completely, I feel almost the same in terms of their haphazard FF releases. I like FF7, only because it is still a decent game, I think I like FF2 (4) and FF3 (6) and FF1 the best. I (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[Moving to off-topic.debate, because that is what it could turn into] (...) Yes, Squaresoft is their US name. I'm bitter over what games they decide not to translate and bring to the US, and the direction of their current games. Not all of my (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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IIRC, from my undergraduate folklore and linguistics classes at UC Berkeley, the phrase "mighty white" originated in the southern states before the War Between The States, and carried the DENOTATION (exact meaning) of "honorable in business (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Just noticed what might appear to be a contradiction here. Not really, if memory serves. The few times I have heard "might white" mean something that could be interpreted as racist towards non-whites, it was also clearly meant as (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was born and grew for a while in California and grew up to adulthood in Tennessee. I've heard people say "mighty white of you" in both ways you describe. Any kind of attempt to assign a meaning to a phrase like that is doomed without (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Lewis and Clark expedition notes talk about this, yes. Not necessarily randomly snatching something back, but, say, giving back a gun and taking back a horse when the gun was no longer needed, or deemed to be of little value compared to (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37A3C5AD.CDFF9A...ger.net... (...) I've always been under the impression that to be an indian giver is to act as the US did in giving the indians some land and then coming along and taking it (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Fascinating. To reiterate, I have always understood "mighty white" and "mighty christian" to be equivalent insults (to non whites and non christians, respectively). There isn't a dictionary per se to go look these up in. we build our understanding (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, I think this may be a misunderstanding based on differences in meanings of phrases. Either one of us doesn't know the true definition or the definition has changed in different locales. When one is generosity is described as "being mighty (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Neither of these are TW pubs. I rather like them as they don't do the standard Time Warner, "hey government intervention isn't so bad after all" spinthink the way Fortune does. (...) I read all three of these, even Fortune, and get a lot out (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Insulting is an art form. One needs to choose the proper sized brush. This is an example of unintended splatter, I think. (...) If you'd said "that is mighty generous of you", it would be offensive in an acceptable way, in context... that is, you'd (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, what I meant, even if it didn't come through clearly, was that if I were to choose to spend $2800 on a computer (which I would not NEED to do, unless I wanted a true behemoth of a machine) I could put one together that would outperform, in (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Also a troll, but IMO not a vain troll. (...) Agreed. Sorry for cluttering up .general (...) Also Forbes, also WSJ. Any magazine I've read claiming to report financial news has proven to be little more than a self-promoting millionaire's club (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<slrn7ppuk6.1g6.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> <379DDDC3.86F71E58@c...souri.edu> <slrn7prp5p.1m8.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Wait. I missed something. So you can spend $2800 piecing together (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Well, that's a good point. I could buy a prebuilt machine that matches that G3's specs for $1626. Basically the same machine I just ordered for myself at work minus the 21" monitor. And I won't have to buy a real keyboard and mouse in addition (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I frankly don't know all the specs of all the machines around, but WRT the machines that I have around, I can count on the Macs being ~30% more expensive and a variable amount faster in ways that I find important. I've been using SETI@home as (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Well if you believe you can point us to a theoretical proof I'd be interested to see it (seriously). I'd have to say however that I'd be extremely sceptical of any proofs, because. (1) The theory of the free market relies on a number of (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apparently Lugnuts aren't easily duped into such thinly veiled trolls <except me> Me: FISHED IN, FISHED IN;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No empirical evidence that's definitive, but theoretical proofs exist, (and not based on invisible heat sorting demons or market information communicators). Further, the less intervention there is, the longer the booms last and the less severe (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you are arguing that if you remove all Government intervention, then there won't be any business cycles? You are also apparently arguing that there has always been Government intervention? You appear to have argued yourself into a corner, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Faster? In what way, running what apps? Sorry, but having used everything from the original lunchbox to the latest blue+white G3 on the Mac side and everything from the 8086 to a fully tripped-out P3-550, it ain't so. Maybe at various times (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) As determined by what? Film studies majors? Happy endings sell better. (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your example is spurious. My kids were covered before they were born... under as private an insurance system as I could find at the time. And if they had had birth defects that prebirth testing could have discovered, we would not have had (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why were these jobs hard to come by? Perhaps it had something to do with the government meddling in the economy trying to make jobs easy to come by... It's always easy to try to explain away courses of action after the fact by citing excuses. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's one of us, anyway. <zing> Just kidding. (...) Sorry, I forgot. There wasn't government back in 1503, and it didn't meddle in the economy either. How silly of me. (...) Trust me, government intervention wasn't done for god's sake, it was (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfortunately, there's raw speed and then there's effective speed. Today's Windows machine takes anywhere from 2 to 5 minutes to boot, in my experience. And from what I've seen, Macs aren't any better. Does anyone here remember the Apple ][ ? (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Sorry if you're having trouble recognising a joke even if the smiley is staring you in the face ans shouting: "HEY! This is a joke!". (...) That is your opinion. Stating it as fact does not make it so.[1] (...) Really? So the entire (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So call me a pessimist. (...) Ad hominem? Sorry, but "Libertopia (might equal) dystopia (as easily as) utopia" is hardly an ad hominem. It is directed at the word, not the man. Anyway, that aside.. I haven't yet seen you, or any other (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where did I talk about anything but stereotypes? *muttermustreallybel...gegrumble* Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. They are neither faster, nor cheaper, nor faster per unit of currency spent. It used to be, back in the glory days of PowerPC, that the fastest Mac boxes beat the fastest Intel boxes. Not any more. You do realise that the fastest Intel box (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Exactly. There is such a thing as local, but it only lasts the session. Therefore, a local cache should not persist beyond the session. You could possibly supplement that with a smaller (as server diskspace is a hell of a lot more expensive (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I've heard a sysadmin rant about how IE & NT Do Not Approve of that. He apparently was getting it set back to default automatically. Very weird, but then again, NT is weird. I'll take `vi sendmail.cf` over "Start, Configuration, Configuration (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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(...) Larry, As a father, how do you avoid the use of force? (pushing kids around) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, I think it's a bad argument tactic to suggest that Macs are cheaper than Intel hardware. It just ain't so. But, they are faster, more reliable, easier to use, easier to maintain, less reliant on MS (which matters to some), and home to (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Whoever pointed out Zenworks was right. It's magic. And the Mac can too. I'm not our primary Mac person anymore so I don't know all the details but using MacIPX and Dave and maybe something else, they appear just as another workstation on the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) You're not thinking of the same kind of environment. I have to provide hundreds of workstations for tens of thousands of casual users. There's no such thing as a "local" anything when those users move around and use random machines at random (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
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(...) Too up-tight to get down, eh? Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course, non-happy-endings usually end up being much better films.. Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You did report it to the police _before_ you got hit with the tickets, didn't you? Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, right. "Hello, this is .. oh, I don't have a name yet, but call me Charles, calling from the womb. I need health insurance just in case I get a birth defect". Jasper (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
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(...) I take it you mean no taxes at all anymore, so your income would rise? More like profits would go up for business, IMHO, but that aside. (...) For one thing, abolishing all taxes and what gets paid by it wouldn't triple my income, it would (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
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(...) Says who? The mere fact that I choose to make a post focusing on one side of the argument does not mean I concede the other. Far from it. The trouble is, we both start from opposite views of what is a right and what is not, and therefore, (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have you ever heard of the concept "Jobs are not plentiful"? Apparently not. Life for a working-class man in the 60's and 70s, especially with a child going through university, is not a picnic, and quitting usually just Is Not An Option. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:05:48 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote: You know, up til now, what you said made at least a modicum of sense. (...) Business cycles have _nothing_ to do with government interventions. There have been documented (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:46:46 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@io.com> wrote: <roving desktops> (...) Well, I was trying to make a joke. Sorry, weong group, I know. (...) The problem isn't that the network can't handle the load, it's that it shouldn't _have_ (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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(...) Microsoft called. They want to know where to submit their proposal for MS-DoD. Steve "I'd go Canada if Bill G. got control" Bliss (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, so asking for a cheaper machine than a hand-me-down is a bit misleading, don't you think? I could just as easily say that Rachael's P2-350 was a hand-me-down for her (since it was) because it used to be my machine. In fact, since it hasn't (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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Larry Pieniazek wrote: 1 - reminds me of an old joke. (...) I'll bite. -John (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm use a hand-me-down PM6100 (60MHz 601) that I've added memory and an L2 cache to, say $150 total. We also have a substantially more expensive Power Computing box (CPU was about $1400 in '97, we've added other stuff since then). (...) This (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: An interesting URL from my favorite newspaper
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(...) Sorry if you're having trouble recognising a rhetorical argument there. Try not to fall asleep in class. More slowly for the rhetoric impaired. - They were not fools. Rather, they were brilliant. - There is nothing fundamentally different (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
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Jasper Janssen wrote: <someone else said democracy is the majority pushing minorities around> (...) Oh, I get it. The choices according to you are: - the majority thumps the minority over the head with a stick - everyone with a stick tries to thump (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not sure what Mac you have, so it's hard to know if this machine is (or was) cheaper, but my wife's P2-350 can do all those (although she doesn't do 1 + 2). We have Photoshop with 2 different scanners (flatbed HP and HP negative/slide (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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You prolly think that men and women are equal, too. (...) Where is it written that all gays are implicitly wonderful, loving parents? Talk about stereotypes. -John "extinguishing the flames of stupidity" Neal (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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