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Re: POV-RAY orange color
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:00:39 GMT
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johnneal@SAYNOTOSPAMuswest.net
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> John Neal wrote:
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> > It's a story. Didn't really happen.
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> Ah, OK. So what else in the bible is just a story, then, and what is
> true, if anything? None of the old, and all of the new testament? Or
> something different? And what's the basis for your sorting? AFAIAC,
> Jesus being the son of god is just a story. Didn't really happen.
The Bible isn't a proof text. It's a collection of many different
traditions, most of them oral. Don't be so "Western Culture, how did it
happen, is it true, what are the facts". The fact is that the ancient
world didn't care for such things, and subsequently didn't record in such
a manner. They cared about "why" questions, so even if Creation didn't
happen as it says in Genesis (Look closely, there are actually *3*
separate creation stories in Genesis!), it's a moot point. They couldn't
have care less how the world was created (*we* do, however), but why. And
when one looks at the Bible in that manner, you don't worry whether or not
something actually occured or not, because therein isn't the point.
Now the story of Jesus is remarkable. Say anything you want, but you have
to admit that he is the most influencial human that ever lived. Why is
that? He was just a poor man living in a backward country in an ancient
world teaching a message for 3 lousy years and yet he has influenced the
lives of billions of people throughout history. It's because he was more
than just a man, and that his message was so profound.
> > IMO Job is one of the most interesting and honest books in the Bible.
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> Right, because it shows the true nature of your god.
No, Jesus revealed the true nature of God, because only Jesus knew it.
Job reflects a frustration at the enigma of God.
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Saying that Jesus was the most influencial human that ever lived is IMO one of those statements that sounds reasonable at first, but doesn't really stand up to close analysis. Influencing (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ah, OK. So what else in the bible is just a story, then, and what is true, if anything? None of the old, and all of the new testament? Or something different? And what's the basis for your sorting? AFAIAC, Jesus being the son of god is just a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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