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Subject:	Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:00:41 GMT
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Jesse Long <jesse.r.long@gte.net> wrote: > That last question is pretty interesting. Would God forgive the Devil if > asked? It appears to me (without being a divinity scholar) that angels > (normal and fallen) have not displayed any freedom of choice since the > Rebellion. I don't know. It's not possible, so I haven't thought about it. Yeah, what if Satan just suddenly gave up? Admitted he was a jerk and wrong, and honestly (how could you hide it from God?) asked for forgiveness? Or was his original crime, way back when, so bad that he's too far gone? Or is he the pefectly arrorgant being some would paint him as, so arrogant that, knowing he's up against the ALMIGHTY, knowing everything God has ever wanted to do He did, knowing there's a book that details just how crappy this will all end up for him, knowing all that, he'd still keep going? My father-in-law the preacher would probably have a heart attack to hear me say it, but in a lot of ways I find the concept of Satan as he is painted in Christian mythology much harder to accept than most of the happier stuff. -- The pieces you want and nothing else - easy online bidding! http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction Sure, you could pay someone to run your LEGO auction. Or, you could run it yourself for free: http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/ (Still in beta)

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		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) it. (...) I agree about the "painting", Mike. At least Greek and Roman mythology were "believable". -- Have fun! John AUCTION Page (More soon!) (URL) Page (URL) wp,dm,rk,df++ fk-]++++(6035) SW,TR,old(456)+++ (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) Hmm. Good question. I think the answer is, "nothing in the Bible addresses this point". But to talk about it anyway: it's not enough to ask for forgiveness. It's a condition for salvation, but not main cause of salvation. The real reason (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) You might want to read To Reign in Hell, by Steven Brust, which paints a far more interesting picture. Brust is quoted on the jacket: "From all of my readings on the revolt of the angels, two things are clear: God is omnipotent, and Satan is (...) (25 years ago, 21-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
(...) If you believe the axiom that "God knows everything" (and that I know is a muchly overused notion) and that he is all-wise, then it's not hard to stretch and say that God knows (and has apparently declared) that Satan is incorrigible. It seems (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:37bb87d1.204022...net.com... (...) things (...) there (...) end (...) Isn't that Faust? Interestingly, every time that play resurfaced in a new era it had a different ending. There's the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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