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Re: An interesting URL from my favorite newspaper
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Date: 
Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:06:53 GMT
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Jasper Janssen wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:07:42 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
wrote:

Read it, then ask yourself, were the founding fathers such fools, or is

Hey, you said it, I didn't ;)

Sorry if you're having trouble recognising a rhetorical argument there.
Try not to fall asleep in class. More slowly for the rhetoric impaired.

- They were not fools. Rather, they were brilliant.
- There is nothing fundamentally different about the nature of
government now compared to then.
- Their mechanism for preventing government from getting out of control
worked quite well for over 125 years
- we should undo some of what has accreted in the last 90 or so.


Basically, we no longer live in a Dark Age frontier anymore?

The dark ages were characterised by feudalism and disrespect for
creation and knowledge. Not exactly how I'd characterize the 1790s. You
fell asleep in history class too, I guess.

I'm not convinced anything is different now. I trust the average joe to
be good but the average politician to be venal.

Think about _that_ for a while.

Yes, do. How are Joe Average and Al Gore (or Tony Blair) different? Is
their difference a contributor to my relative trusts?


Happy 4th of July. Think about why it's a holiday while you're
barbecueing.

Happy Good Riddance day, as a British friend of mine used to say... ;)

Indeed.

Good riddance to tyranny and hello to a government of laws, not men.

Good riddance to a society  founded on the premise of hereditary
nobility, and hello to a society founded on the premise that all men
have equal rights.

Good riddance to the notion that all other countries and cultures are
destined to be under the suzerainty of the British King and hello to the
notion of honest friendship with all who seek it and entangling
alliances with none.

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(...) Hey, you said it, I didn't ;) (...) Basically, we no longer live in a Dark Age frontier anymore? (...) Think about _that_ for a while. (...) Happy Good Riddance day, as a British friend of mine used to say... ;) Jasper (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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