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  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Alternatively the users of the common could determine what the maximum usage level is. Rather that competing against each other, they could invest in sheep together, via some sort of co-op, and take advantage of the common that way. However, I (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) Which facts in particular? The piece seemed largely devoid of facts. (...) He seems to have skyscraper succesion down pat. (...) There's nothing to believe. No. By whom? (...) I don't know about anyone else, but I already knew that kooks were (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) the most disgusting pieces of religious conservative propoganda I've ever read. I'd say more, but it would probably be a TOS violation. ;) (...) Not to mention a basic lack of respect towards other creatures on this planet. To me, he is (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Yes and no. The standard Libertarian answer applies well to the standard example... sheep overgrazing a commons can be remediated by having someone (or a group of someones) own the formerly common area and controlling how many sheep graze (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) The dialogue in The Matrix is classic in this respect, comparing humanity to a virus... . . . WARNING - harsh reality follows, don't read it if you are soft at heart or can't deal with a little adversity.... . . . . <dons flameproof underwear> (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) NO, you won't actually. It will have to be cheaper AND more convenient. Too many public transportation systems are"broken" in that you have to use your CAR to get to them in the first place. There was an article in the SJ Merc last week or the (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
What I think about this editorial can't really be described in words appropriate for this forum, but this guy's constant use of negative adjectives to describe a group of people concerned about taking action in situations that don't involve their (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Chris's in general never cease to amaze me... <grin>... and you two both just did. (...) Arguably? *Arguably*?! I mean, show me anything else with greater threat. (...) <nod> I wish the government(s... all over the world) would invest in (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Chris, you never cease to amaze me. :) IMO, The automobile is arguably the greatest threat to environmental and social quality, and is probably one of the most subsidized sectors of the world's economy. I was able to explain and demostrate (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I'm more amazed 2500 economists agreed on something. :) (...) I'm having trouble coming up with an example that shows how government regulation can protect something, at least one that is not mired with economics and other ideas. It's also (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) so sad... (...) what does the Libertarian think of the tradegy of the commons? Is it addressed? (...) Go Vegetarian! Just kidding ;) I'm pretty sure fishing regulations don't extend into nternational waters. There are some species that are (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I think there is a major push to buy up many of the sites in Mexico. (...) This is largely what I expected we would come up. I'm all for protecting as many species/ecosystems as we can in developed/developing areas but, and I may be taking (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
This syndicated column appear in today's issue of the Toledo Blade: (URL) have never before in my life seen such misunderstanding and miscommunication of facts in a single editorial. Disregarding the authors philosphical points, he has almost (and (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: I'm back... (Clarified! )
 
(...) Yes. I defintely should've moved it to off-topic.debate sooner ;) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
Well, I'm not a copper, but I do deal with motor claims for an Insurance company, and there are a lot of factors to take into account: Was anybody injured? Was anybody killed? Was there any spillage? Was there much debris on the road? Was there a (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) Yes, and since there are a lot more voters in the center, in some ways I can't blame the Democrats for choosing to court them, pragmatist that I am. (...) Yes also, and lest you think that all Greens voted for Nader in November, some of the (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) An undeniable truth about this, though, is that the Democratic Party is more likely to court moderate, center-leaning republicans than it is to try to embrace the far-left fringe. Another unfortunate truth is that a vote for Nader was very (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) It's funny how around election time the differences were minimized, but once Bush was safely ensconced in the White House he felt free to push his right wing agenda. On the whole I think it is true that because of the realities of getting (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LDRAW memorial image site
 
"soc" <reallysick_of_crap@...tmail.com> wrote in message news:GE36ou.9D5@lugnet.com... (...) That email was composed the night before, and not sent because of server problems. I came back last night, sent and received email, and then read your (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I do a lot of work with TNC myself, and all I can say is the stuff they do is simply amazing- both on the surface and behind the scenes. -chris (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
I hear what you are saying Larry. I few months ago I would have agreed. However, now that Bush is in power I am not so sure. Events last week show that perheps there is a difference between the the big 2: (URL) may well have saved the US $60bn tax (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) Sigh. Sorry for reading that too quickly the first time and getting all excited over nothing... Ho hum, more of the same. I think there should be only two car companies, GM and Ford, and that they ought to share all their engineering and (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: I'm back... (Clarified! )
 
"A. Mark Wilburn" <amwilburn@iname.com> wrote in message news:GE27CG.8zq@lugnet.com... (...) Well said. I agree 100%. -Tim (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LDRAW memorial image site
 
"Bryan Beckwith" <bbbeckwi@mail.SPAMB...Kuccs.edu> wrote in message news:GE2zK8.K7q@lugnet.com... (...) Well said. I will not tolerate demands made on me by this negative contributor to the community. I think as this activity progresses, its (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDRAW memorial image site
 
Is it just me, or does this sound like terrorism? "If my demands are not met....." Shame on those (relatively few) of you who insist on making our hobby and community less fun. Bryan Beckwith "soc" <reallysick_of_crap@...tmail.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
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  Re: M6 Crash
 
(...) Even then, I'm not convinced it's actually rubber necking. I know the one time I witnessed an accident in progress on the other side of the highway, I briefly slowed down. In part, I was wondering if I should stop and render assistance, in (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
(...) I can only recall one really big crash over here from memory, and that was a multiple pile up in fog. They had to spray numbers on the burnt out wrecks so they could tell which was which. (...) Your quite right. (...) I agree here as well. But (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm back... (Clarified! )
 
Whoops, don't normally reply to myself but: (...) And while he may have had valid points, it IS Todd's server, he's paying for it, and so I think you should have to abide by his rules. (C'mon, there must be a way to get what you both want in an (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) This is one reason I really like the Nature Conservancy. The bulk of their effort goes to acquiring property, either through outright purchase, or by attaining conservation easements. Once they have acquired property rights by (mostly) free (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) No, the impression I got was that the author preferred the Demopublican Party. Frank (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
Although I have not read all of this I find this very unproductive. I am happy to be called "disruptive" if it means questioning those who make unsubstantiated remarks. I am sure those who make unsubstantiated remarks are happy that you are creating (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Me too, actually. It seems to me like the only fair thing to do, and as long as it's a user fee that is pretty fairly apportioned, then I'd have no complaints. I'd actually like to see some reasonable attempt to remediate environmental damages (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) At the end of the article you pointed us to they suggest leasing or buying the land...so why not? This one seems kind of easy. Everyone who wants to protect the monarchs bucks up a little bit and buys the 14 (or whatever) sites where they (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
I started twitching spastically 2/3 of the way through this. Scott, in ten years on the net, actively participating in conversations with all kinds of people with all kinds of beliefs, from all over the world, I have never, ever, met anyone as (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Not my point - but never mind. (...) A good start Larry, but I do doubt your notion free marketeers do not break laws. Further, what gives them the right to decide laws are "unjust"? (...) You should make yourself clear then Larry. Deliberate (...) (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) They are saying that there ought to be a difference between the parties? What a novel idea! :-) (...) It's a chicken or egg problem, I suspect. And the dirty politics internal to the LP don't help matters either. (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) Our paper had an editorial yesterday which lambasted Jeffers for doing this. The author felt that it was important for the Rebublican party to have liberals and the Democratic party to have conservatives, to the point that independants weaken (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
(...) OOPS! :-) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A Jeffers factoid or two
 
(...) That should read "This is the most for any state, absolutely or proportionately". Sorry! ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
(...) c /mourning/morning/ unless you *intended* that freudian slip, in which case, good one! Grin. (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Explain the tragedy of the commons? Your cite referenced it, I assumed you are familiar with it. (...) Explain the notion that a person engaged in stealing is not a free marketeer? Seems obvious to me. Maybe you're not as familiar with (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A Jeffers factoid or two
 
Vermont now has 2 out of 3 of their national level representatives as "independents" since Bernie Sanders is badged that way (although he ran as a socialist). This is the From IBD: "[T]he most underappreciated political phenomenon of the last two (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
"Steven Lane" <Steveroblane@aol.com> wrote in message news:GDv2v7.1vz@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) Not as bad as the traffic chaos they apparently caused in Central London yesterday when the police closed a section of the A40 or something for 3 (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
Perhaps an obvious question, but maybe the police were looking for 'hard to find' lego sets !? Steven Lane <Steveroblane@aol.com> wrote in message news:GDv2v7.1vz@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: M6 Crash
 
(...) Well, it depends on the cargo. A few years back, a fuel truck crashed on I-95 and I think it was a couple days before they had that section of the road open again. If the accident caused serious property loss, I don't begrudge a certain amount (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  M6 Crash
 
A lorry crashed on the M6 motorway (freeway is U.S parlance) in the early hours of this mourning, It said on the news that it cost business millions of pounds due to the enourmous delays. Why does it take 8 hours to re-open a motorway? That's a (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.uk)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Explain please. (...) Explain please. (...) Did I say that? No. Anyhow, what is your altermative. (...) By "enforced more", I mean the law should be enforced more. The freemarketeers should be trusted less. (...) I do not agree that is always (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) What is that supposed to mean, exactly? I've been here all along and have been quite aware of this class of problem inasmuch as it points out a major failing in the concept of public ownership. (...) If they are breaking laws they are not (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: frowny ( Re: Power Puller: £34.99 at Argos!)
 
"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GDu34w.CFL@lugnet.com... (...) it (...) Ever." (...) The (...) public (...) Despair's products should strike a chord with anyone who has worked in a large corporation, especially American. I (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: frowny ( Re: Power Puller: £34.99 at Argos!)
 
"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GDu34w.CFL@lugnet.com... (...) it (...) Well I despair at such activities :-( regards lawrence all trademarks are acknowledged. well is a trademark of well.com I is a trademark of I.com despair (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: frowny ( Re: Power Puller: £34.99 at Argos!)
 
LOL ;-) "Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GDu34w.CFL@lugnet.com... (...) it (...) Ever." (...) The (...) public (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  frowny ( Re: Power Puller: £34.99 at Argos!)
 
(...) Jono, I hope you have paid despair.com to use the frowny. They have registered it as a trademark: (URL) the despair.com site (URL) a press conference, Despair's COO, Dr. E.L.Kersten, announced his intentions to sue "anyone and everyone who (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Welcome to the planet earth Larry. (...) I think you are cherry picking points from my post rather than jutifying your past "arguments" and claims. I shall humour you. The eu operates a quota system were fishing is concerned. There are strict (...) (23 years ago, 23-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
There is some merit in the arguments your cite makes. I would ask this, however.... (and I snipped away the rest) (...) Overfishing is a worldwide problem, and a growing one. Whatever nation builds the largest fleet of boats wins the race to catch (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Here's a concrete real-world example that may work for working through this: Monarch Butterfies are increasingly threaten with extinction in the coming decades mainly by destruction and degradation of their summer and winter habitats. I (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I suppose that the foremost priority in responsible wildlife management is to maintain a viable ecosystem in every environmental sample that is large enough to be essentially self-regulating. In my mind, the most pressing problem is urban (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
Well, I'm a parent of a 17-yr-old girl, so I'll take a stab at this... (...) your (...) adults? Worst? Leaving aside the earth-shattering things like killing someone in the car when drunk, coming home pregnant, etc, and just looking at everyday (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
Christopher, I found this text which goes over most of your points. It is rather long (I have not read it all yet). The key passage for me is this one: == ++ == "The libertarian's error resides in their proposal that privatization, which is clearly (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Good point. Also, *if* you owned all the plants, would you have the right to destroy them if you so wished? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
(...) Ok, I'll take a shot, since I'm actually in the target group that Shiri asks about. *Insert Big Disclaimer here: I am by no means a super great parent.* Some of you here may remember my son if you attended Brickfest last year. He's was then (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I am not sure if I agree. If you are correct, look at which companies are wrecking the planet in the developing world... it is multinational companies from the developed world. The true cost of life in the west is very high: Oil 'time-bomb' in (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
Okay, I am not a parent but I got somethin to say cuz I am 16. My parents think I am the good, Chrictian, Doesnt-want-to-be-la...for-Church Lego Dude. My GIRLFRIENDS parents think I am the next 'Darien Kliebold' (AKA Columbine shooter) because I (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
(...) I think your parents need some time on Fleebnork duty. That oughta clear out their cobwebs! Miles apart can be a GOOD thing. Totally understand, Mr. Grand Admiral, Sir! -Aaron- (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
(...) I think a bad way of discovering your teen's "maturity" is when they start having sex, get pregnant or get someone else pregnant, or contract a sexually transmitted disease that may threaten their life or reproductive ability. The worst way I (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
(...) Much of it really has to do with the parent themselves, and how THEY were raised. Now, my parents were good kids, with good grades. When my mom was a teen, she won bicycle rodeos and sang in choirs. My dad worked on cars and raced motorcycles. (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Advice from teens' parents?
 
(...) Heh. This may not be very helpful, but... my parents *never* gave me any slack. I was on a leash about this long: (--) I was a *very* well-behaved teenager, yet I was always treated with suspicion and made to walk the line. Here's a hint: It (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Advice from teens' parents?
 
(XFUT o-t.debate, this is a little about people but has nothing to do with lego) This question is addressed mostly to those among you who are parents - especially parents of teens. What, in your opinion, *as a parent*, are the best and the worst (...) (23 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) What would happen? Wouldn't it be bad? *His Girlfriend punches his arm* Rick: OW. Dont hit me Lisa. I am just saying women dont have the balls to do big important stuff Lisa: It's estrogen you spoony person, thats all it is. its estrogen. (...) (23 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: School leaving age
 
(...) Yes. For both answers. You dont learn how to save the enviroment (Ecology), how to make claypots (Ceramics I and II) and how to dray a nose (Cartooning) until you are 16! That shows how stupid American Electives are. Rick (URL) (23 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) The world would be a very horrible place! -Harvey (23 years ago, 19-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I'm probably in the ultra-minor minority of Americans who would like to pay for the real price of oil- mainly to reflect the true environmental costs. I don't mind paying the currently high prices but, I think I'v unintentially deluded myself (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) James, How do you consider we achieve responsible management? I have some ideas. I'm curious to what others think. -chris (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I can't find the exact cite right now, but an extension of Maslow's 'Hierarchy of needs' implies that environmental awareness(1) and the desire to protect it typically does not arrise in a society until that society reaches some level of (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I know you are trying to stay on a narrowly focused topic here, but this is something I started to think about (again) as I was reading the end of the article and it may have bearing on this discussion. Can the market foster an ethical (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) One of what? James FUT lugnet.off-topic.disingenuous (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) My personal take on the situation is that it doesn't necesarily matter whose original idea it was, but how they use it. I mean Henry Ford wasn't the first person to create a car, but he was the first person to make it practical, worthwhile, (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) How very like a man to make a bad pun and forget to put the seat back down (er, that is, set the FUT correctly) ++Lar (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) We have one of these here, you know... (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) Doh! james (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  School leaving age
 
Hi all Does the government insist pupils stay at school until their 16 (here in the UK) because that's how long it takes to teach them a sufficent amount or is it just convenient to keep them occupied until their 16? Steve (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) So you've got one of those on-and-off relationships... Dave! (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) No harm done--I was trying to be facetious anyway. You're obviously not familiar with the universal archetype of the guy-who-didn't-quite...o-express. 8^) Dave! (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) No, I did, its just that there is more than one archetype, so I think both using all of the same archetypes is rather suspicious. :) That is one of the things I was trying to get at, sorry for not being very clear. Jeff (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) Uh...you haven't met my wife. We have a drill: she turns everything with a power cord in the house on, I turn everything off. She turns it all back on, I turn it all back off. She turns everything on, I turn everything off, she turns (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) Well, you're obviously not familiar with the universal archetype of the pre-WWI international submarine crew. 8^0 Actually, that is some weird overlap; I didn't realize the scope of it. Dave! (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) I must've missed part of that thread then, because I thought it was stated that the similarities were just the names (HP being a main character and LP being a minor character) and two entirely different creatures having the same name. Also, (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) While ownership of many things seems problematical, I think free market forces do work in environmental protections. I feel pretty confident that in a general sense, those nations with more market freedom have more concern for the environment. (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) I don't know. Recently we had the discussion of Larry Potter vs. Harry Potter, and the general (though not absolute) consensus that the peculiar overlaps were indeed coincidental, and they were much more specific than dark-skin-blue-pendant. (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) the (...) You had a 50:50 chance of getting it right - you failed. (...) Buy a dictionary : state - "to express, esp. clearly and carefully" "Critical thinkers" can justify their position. I asked you to TWICE in my last post. You failed each (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) True, and I am not debating that the most *basic* part of the story, i.e. finding Atlantis (I forgot to mention that this wasn't one of the "stealing of ideas" I was talking about), is unique to these two shows, the execution, down to specific (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) There's a website with a list of all the female national leaders this past century (I think I typed in "female world leaders" on yahoo). The trouble is that in both the cases of women or "real human beings" we are talking about individuals. (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Yes. Let us review the difference between "states" and "asserts". Had you said "As the text I quoted asserts", you would be acknowledging that the author believed it to be true but not saying you felt it was fact yourself. However, you said (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Disney stealing ideas again?
 
(...) While I am not acquainted with that show and I am loathe to defend Disney on this point I will say that Atlantis is an old story and it has one basic archetypical approach: a guy finds a map, uses it to find "the lost city", the city rises or (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Disney stealing ideas again?
 
Well, once again it seems that Disney cannot come up with ideas on their own. Their upcoming animated movie, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, bears startling similarities to Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, a TV series by the Japanese studio Gainax (the (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Did I say it was as fact? (...) What a surprise. Can you justify this? (...) Not even if it cannot? (...) If you just want to say it can, we heard you already. But perhaps you can take the time to justify your view. But before you do, take a (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) The text you quoted *claims* it cannot. It is an assertion by that author, not a fact, that it is impossible to do so. That is not a view I share. The point of this subthread is to explore further, with concrete ideas and proposals, whether it (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If women were in charge...
 
(...) Based on the women I know, they'd prolly outlaw air conditioning except on the hottest days as part of their energy bill. ;) Jeff "FLAT SIDE UP!" (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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