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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Date: 
Fri, 18 May 2001 14:56:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

As the text I quoted states, the market can not be trusted to look after the
environment. Are you really saying you think it can?


The text you quoted *claims* it cannot. It is an assertion by that author,
not a fact, that it is impossible to do so.

Did I say it was as fact?

Yes.

Let us review the difference between "states" and "asserts". Had you said
"As the text I quoted asserts", you would be acknowledging that the author
believed it to be true but not saying you felt it was fact yourself.
However, you said "As the text I quoted states", which means you are
accepting the claims the author makes as factual.

Critical thinkers understand this distinction. Perhaps, in your personal
growth path, someday you will too.

But before you do, take a look at how one of your fellow libertarians messed
up her state's Environment:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0105/ridgeway.shtml

Thanks for the cite. I take everything that the Village Voice asserts with a
grain (or more) of salt. In this case, a dump truck load.

Now, let's try to stay on topic. I have an open mind about this. I am not
sure that the conventional prescription of ownership works for migratory
animals. Hence my interest in exploring this. If you don't want to bring an
open mind and work through examples, your time would be better spent elsewhere.

++Lar



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  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) the (...) You had a 50:50 chance of getting it right - you failed. (...) Buy a dictionary : state - "to express, esp. clearly and carefully" "Critical thinkers" can justify their position. I asked you to TWICE in my last post. You failed each (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) While ownership of many things seems problematical, I think free market forces do work in environmental protections. I feel pretty confident that in a general sense, those nations with more market freedom have more concern for the environment. (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I know you are trying to stay on a narrowly focused topic here, but this is something I started to think about (again) as I was reading the end of the article and it may have bearing on this discussion. Can the market foster an ethical (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Here's a concrete real-world example that may work for working through this: Monarch Butterfies are increasingly threaten with extinction in the coming decades mainly by destruction and degradation of their summer and winter habitats. I (...) (23 years ago, 22-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Did I say it was as fact? (...) What a surprise. Can you justify this? (...) Not even if it cannot? (...) If you just want to say it can, we heard you already. But perhaps you can take the time to justify your view. But before you do, take a (...) (23 years ago, 18-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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