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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Date: 
Wed, 30 May 2001 03:59:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
Chris, you never cease to amaze me. :)

Chris's in general never cease to amaze me... <grin>... and you two both
just did.

IMO, The automobile is arguably the greatest threat to environmental and
social quality, and is probably one of the most subsidized sectors of
the world's economy.

Arguably? *Arguably*?! I mean, show me anything else with greater threat.

I was able to explain and demostrate this point to
some of my students this past term and I had several people tell me that
they never thought about it that way before.  It gave me a glimmer of
hope.

<nod> I wish the government(s... all over the world) would invest in cheaper
public transportation and promote it. When it is cheaper for a family of 4
to take a train from, say, Boston to Cape Cod, that's when we'll see actual
results.... dropping accident rates, dropping energy waste, dropping
pollution rates, decrease in man-time spent in traffic jams, decrease in
expenditure on *better* highways, *bigger* interstates, *faster* cars...

(need I even *mention* the Big Dig (in Boston), which has cost taxpayers a
few *billions* so far and it's not even done? That's one of the biggest
debates around here.)

What I would like to see is the price of car insurance included
in the price of gas.  Then it would be fairer to the person who drives a
100 miles a month and to the person who spends 30 times that on the
road.  That would probably require some sort of universal id card
though.

Wow, *cool* idea! That's really smart. But actually, the person who would
actually spend 30 times more time would (on average) also be that much more
experienced, dontcha think? Or... maybe not.

'night
-Shiri



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) NO, you won't actually. It will have to be cheaper AND more convenient. Too many public transportation systems are"broken" in that you have to use your CAR to get to them in the first place. There was an article in the SJ Merc last week or the (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I don't know... nuclear weapons, rogue asteriods, monsanto corporation, Planet Lunch(tm), the juniorasation of LEGO. ;) (...) you forgot the *more* :) I take the train pretty often. I wish it was cheaper and faster as well. A few years back... (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Chris, you never cease to amaze me. :) IMO, The automobile is arguably the greatest threat to environmental and social quality, and is probably one of the most subsidized sectors of the world's economy. I was able to explain and demostrate (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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