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(...) Hmmm... maybe it's neither an illness nor a lifestyle choice. Maybe homosexuals are just people, like the rest of us. (25 years ago, 22-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) like (...) I'll see what I can do. I'm sure it's on one of my numerous disks lying around my desk. :) Anyways, sorry for not responding earlier, I stopped reading the board and I just now remembered that people may have answered my posts. :) (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Massachusetts militia were organized by towns. I think under an elected officer. The towns of course were (and still are) governed by open town meeting (total democracy).I don't recall how a leader was chosen when the militia of several (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The people" - then and now - are whatever people we assume the constatution governs. That has clearly changed. I don't have answers to the fine points (e.g. are illegal aliens part of the people?) but I think that we can comfortably agree (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tell me about it. I spend all day dodging the inquisitor. Steve (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Fri, 21 May 1999 09:56:29 GMT, Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote: [interesting stuff snipped off] (...) ... I am a miwwionaire ... Steve (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Apologies--I snipped the conversation-order. Erk. I need to stop working so late. LFB. (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi again, (...) I try only to make stuff up when it's inconsequential. ;) My "field" isn't early US/18th C. Britain, it's later, so all I have is ancillary knowledge and methodological things. I'm in agreement with the "they had different worries" (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry for the absence--it's been a long week. (...) I'm not talking about accepting French aid--which was instrumental to our success--but in exalting the French and the aristocracy of that country. There was a ton of Francophilia going on in the (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BTW, The preposition rule doesn't really exist. It's up there with the one that says "never split infinitives," which doesn't really exist either. Bill Bryson wrote a rather entertaining exposition on it in _Mother Tongue_ that made a (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I've heard that before;-) (...) The Inquisition moved to Michigan??! What a terrible imposition;-) (...) Don't look at me. **I'M** not the troll who trolled out "evil Jesus" and "fictitious god". I have no intentions of cramming anything down (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) **I'M** certainly not going to plow this ground again. This has been talked about here ad nauseum and I haven't the bandwidth to get into a debate about the existence of god. Suffice it to say that I'm as satisfied of his non existance as (...) (25 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Ho no! you do! :-( (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here we go again. History does have a way of repeating itself. (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Analysis?! Based on what? Not facts. For "rational folk", y'all seem pretty confident in things about which you know nothing, which to me sounds irrational. Further, you hold God is fictitious because you have no proof, which *certainly* (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Under his analysis Jesus was evil, not just misguided, and was a man, not the Son of God. Further, God is fictitious, and there exist better fictions, for example the one he gave. Seems clear to me. Try to keep up, eh? I confess I hadn't taken (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've seen these stated along with calmly well supported chains of logic and the listeners still shake their heads. (...) If you believe it, I'd be interested to hear it. (...) Sure, new blood gets in, but has to work with the system. Who will (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unless they checked in his bed--(he sleeps with them ) (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow, you lost me there. Please clarify the "evil man Jesus" and "better fictitious god" statements. -John (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Libertarian Macho Flash is a saying we have in the party. It's an acknowledgement that we often make statements that we believe to be correct, that when made in a well supported chain of argument may be perfectly reasonable, but when made (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<FBzz21.M93@lugnet.com> <374415C5.502DDE51@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Historically, the thread has morphed, but the point right now is whether or not homosexuality is an illness (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Macho flash? Is that something like acknowledging it as a troll for argument? I really hate it when people disagree with this after it is explained to them. (...) This is why I'm not a member of the LP, I agree with all the goals except that I (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<37421ED7.8F4BB887@voyager.net> <FC01x0.2AH@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Who? I am not "gun crazy", whatever that means, but I own a handgun, am trained in its effective use(1), am (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, that was the intent. (I hope not too.) (...) I meant the scenario to refer to an adult child, for sake of completeness say a 22 year old. I'm assuming from your reply that you were envisioning a child child. (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<37421ED7.8F4BB887@voyager.net> <FBzGnp.L04@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Ya, me too. A debate is different than an argument! In formal debating the goal is to convince the bystanders, (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Can someone summarise what this debate is about? I confess I have no idea at this point. If no one can summarize, stopping may be a good idea. (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He's a fellow traveler. A clarification, though... Libertarians support defense too, just not the bloated inefficent overpriced pork laden one we have now. Really. Libertarians are against taxes too. Taxation is slavery (1). We just recognise (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, so there we have it. Canada. Now I understand. You guys have what, 2, maybe 3 people per square mile up there? Not enough people in one area to stir up the kind of trouble we have to deal with down here. :) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? I will have to look that up now. If for no other reason than curiosity. I'm not sure I'm ready to accept that I can only exercise my 2nd ammendment rights within the confines of my own state. (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Christopher L. Weeks wrote in message <3742C448.E0830844@c...ri.edu>... (...) cousins, (...) he (...) the (...) in (...) This is an extreme example, and I certainly hope it never happens. I would pay the debt because I would see it as my own. A (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sproaticus wrote in message <3742D2BB.99927A6E@g...es.com>... (...) different (...) to (...) it (...) everyone! (...) If semantics means understanding the correct definition of the words we use, I guess. I am glad you figured out what I meant. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) number (...) I feel happy to know another (1) american that is not "gun crazy". Some time poeple realy realy want to do or own wathever they want that they will find any excuse possible to validate their choice even if they now that they are (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bigot: (n) : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices silly me, I used a "forbidden" word, simply because it seemed appropriate. Guess I'll have to stay away from those hot-button words. Next thing (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh dear you've decided to use the word bigot, now the debate gets stupid. You are bigoted because you are intolerant of the opinion I have expressed here. (...) You suggested terminating this discussion, I did a concluding statement and you (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gosh, my college marketing class didn't teach that jargon. (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Try to fix, then disengage if the (implied) contract becomes null and void. I help my relatives out of respect, admiration, and love. Why do you love someone? Philosophical question... but if I stop respecting my relatives I don't have that (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In a sense, yes, in a sense, no. While I am certainly more inclined to sacrifice to help members of my family, I am not their keeper. If my little brother were to fall on hard times and need a place to stay I'd let him stay with me for a (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A california educator (aka, my mother-in-law) recently said, "[public school teachers] are all there to train drones." Steve (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And if you did this in TN, you could have turkey for dinner. Steve (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, semantics. I get your meaning now, thanks. I still feel that the government *owes* us something -- wouldn't that entitle us to what we are owed? For example, I feel that the government owes us protection from invasion, protection from (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <Snipped a bunch of stuff> Larry, you are correct in saying that very few opinions will be changed as a result of the debating that is currently raging withing this group. The reason that I debate (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if your child got in over his head gambling and owed a wad to the mob. You could pay his debt and keep him alive, but you didn't really believe that he'd learn. What if it could incurr significant hardship for you? What if it would be (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, sorry. If you committ to be a keeper in some form, and then the assumed ward reveals moral shortcomings, what's is your behavioral response? (...) I do mean US government business. What if it is as a soldier? -- Sincerely, Christopher (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What can change the opinions? I know that in discussions, I have changed my mind on stances, but I can't isolate the essential element of what convinced me - beyond inarguable logic. But why is it that with pretty similar backgrounds, we see (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And old granddads. While we're at it, get rid of Johnny Walker! (...) Still applies. Followups set to .pun (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Except for the slavery bit. Slavery is evil. But when we're comparing "kinds", early Roman slavery was a bit better than some. Still evil, but it did have the following positive merits: - slaves were captured as a side effect of war, not via (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is your responsibility to preserve peace in your own country FIRST! And ofcourse in other countries, but that goes for all nations on this lumb of dirt, floating in space (carried on the back of four elephants, who are standing on a (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't believe it is our responsibility to do so. It may be, however, in our best interest to do so. Especially economic interest. Maybe not in this case specifically, but, in general, I would think that a mostly peaceful world is a world (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How's this Jurassic (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) So true. I hit a turkey last year. Damn thing stepped out of the brush and started to walk onto the road. In slow motion, I see its legs flex and launch itself into the air....... SMACK! Right into the windshield on the passenger side. Thought (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First (...) I will assume you are talking about Leviticus 18:22, yes? Tell me, do wear cotton/poly blend t-shirts? How well do you keep Kosher? How about hair cuts? Do you trim your beard? Leviticus 19:19, 19:26, and 19:27, respectively. All (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, I thought we'd hashed this out, but apparantly I underestimated your capacity for obstinence. Walking is moving. Your statement above is the logical equivalent of saying the purpose of carrot is vegtable. (...) Actually, until it started (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or periods. Apparently, anyway. (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Right on. I have a brother in law who has exhibited enough cluelessness and consequence avoidance that he's on the verge of being written off. (...) Right on. Key difference here. If you don't get it, re-read. Rights are about behaviours. Even (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, could you restate the question, not following you here. (...) Do you mean US government business? Or just business of a US firm? If the former and it was diplomatic, sure. We have to enforce the rule of law between nations, diplomatic (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sproaticus wrote in message <3741DAFA.C11A9695@g...es.com>... (...) else. (...) (assuming (...) Yes, for me it includes any of the above. My family is made up of productive people, so fortunately I have not been in the position where I had to take (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh? (...) I don't know, but what about cultures where it wasn't considered abnormal? (...) I believe in my perceptions...that helps my mind focus. (...) Bite me. I have a conscience and no religion. (...) I don't believe you. (...) What kind (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You brought it up! (...) Uh...then where did it come from? (...) OK, instead of cooking, how about sewing? Is it natural to wear suits? (...) Because the burden of proof is on the person with the ridiculous beliefs. (...) Exactly his point. (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. How is that modified by your having committed to do so? (...) What if you're on US business? If your answer is still to let them rot, then I disagree. I also think that there are times when it's simply in the best interest of the (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The point of walking is clearly to get from one place to another for some purpose...not just idle movement. (...) The reason that sex feels good is because the organisms for which that was true, procreated, and the others died out. The (usual) (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Holy purple imacs, Macman, we've been slighted! (I think) Lar's quite obscure here...must go look up "innumerate" in this context. At least we mac users don't end our sentences with prepositions;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I think arming the KLA is a bad idea - they started this chapter of the war afterall and so Serbia brutually fought back. I was watching a program of the history of the conflict and Milosevic - the hard man of Europe. It was the Kosovo (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi, I don't know if I am like a hair in the soup but I don't have time to read all previous postings in that thread. What I can see is that your debating gun control, in Canada if you want to buy a weapon you need a permit and succed a weapon (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I got a grade B in History - one of the highest in my school. I live in a house BTW. (...) OK why is the statement in the Bible going against it - there obviously must be something wrong with it for such a statement to be made. (...) Now why (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But you are moving - the purpose of walking. (...) Precisely - why are people dredging out ancient history. Lets go back to Roman times and get ourselves killed - back to the past! (...) The intial thought of homosexuality - if no-one knew it (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Debatable, I guess. The "training" that they require in TN, at least as administered here in Knox county, is laughable. The written test is practically answered question by question by the instructor. The firing test is about as hard as it (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) perform proper subexpression substitution (1) and you get IMNAAHO which after variable substitution(1) results in In My Not At All Humble Opinion. So no. it was in the right place. Anyone here think of me as humble? Didn't think so. (1) (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Does this include how you relate to your literal brother or sister (assuming you're not an only child)? How about parents, spouse, children, cousins, cow-orkers, strangers on the street, mass murderers, presidential candidates, parents-in-law, (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry to be the fly in the ointment, but not for me, thanks. I believe that requiring training is an infringement on the RKBA and specifically violates the second. If the government can require training, and they want to make guns improbably (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Christopher L. Weeks wrote in message <37402D13.FE6DEC19@c...ri.edu>... (...) a (...) Well, obviously! And to think the evil man Jesus said, "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's!" This may be good advice which can be worded in other ways - obey your (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sproaticus wrote in message <3740B628.A7E4BADA@g...es.com>... (...) technological (...) Larry can do a better job than I of explaining this stance. All you have learned from faith and otherwise *does* very likely indicate that you are your brother's (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't agree. (Well, it just fits withing my B.K. philosophy.) I've lived overseas most of my life (1). In countries which are allies or even just friendly to the US, I appreciate (a minimal part of) the presence that the US keeps, especially (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, unless theres an amendment I'm not aware of, you don't have the right to own a car. You have the opportunity to own a car, like any property, based on their availability and your financial capability. You can be granted the (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can only hope that anyone who holds a gun has the same feelings that I do. I have enough experience with guns (at least rifles and a few different types of handgun) that I am confident in my own abilities to use one if need be, but it still (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You don't need a gun for that -- no invader could ever *find* them. ;) Steve (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I much prefer to yell "Use the force, Luke!" in showings of any of the first three movies. SW is starting to sound like a bad Abbott and Costello bit[1]. "What's the first movie?" "Number 4" "No, the first one" "Right" Steve /1/ Did the "Click (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's HCI? (...) On the open road, you are only seconds away from death. Scary thought, the first time you realize it. Especially if you're doing 70MPH through a forest area at the time. In case anyone hasn't noticed, I see a *big* parallel (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. In which case, it would be time to change the legislation. But, I think training which is mostly ineffective is still better than no training. Maybe I've been watching too much TV (entirely likely), but I have these mental images of (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ?? [1] (...) [1] didn't you mean to put the footnote *after* "H"? ;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Libertarianism doesn't speak to it directly except to say that if you feel you're your brother's keeper, that is fine, keep on keeping, but that does not mean that everyone has to contribute to support your sense of obligation. Hence, my taxes (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As (...) Subject to circumstances, obviously. (...) And anyone who invades my home, without a mask, without having the minimal intelligence necessary to check if there is anyone home first, is not at the top of the food chain. I am confident (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have stayed out of this debate until now, but this needs a response. First off, have you been living in a cave?? I am serious, didn't you ever study history? Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of man. If it wasn't, why was (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's an interesting stance. All I've learned -- from my faith and otherwise -- indicates that we are our brother's keeper; e.g. we're responsible to do what we can for others. Is your "hands-off" approach a tenet of Libertarianism, or have (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Disagree. We are not our brother's keeper. Not as people, not as a nation. Where a preemptive strike against evil serves a clear national interest, maybe. (1) But not here, or in Somalia, or Haiti, or Grenada or even in Iraq... "Honest (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're going to do what he says, huh? Even when he remembers that he forgot his mask, realises you probably ID'ed him very well (remember, you were pointing out how you'd be observing every detail, that's often a fairly noticable behaviour), (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. But it takes "beyond a reasonable doubt" not "certain", We had very reasonable doubts based on what we were presented. But I'm pretty sure this particular perp was guilty, or that the DA was lying to us about the circumstances. There (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, lots of countries have pretty money. Some are outright garish. But I think the greenback has a certain understated elegance to it. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped most of the back and forth about 'what is walking'> (...) But you are not going anywhere. Therefore you are not fulfilling the purpose of walking. (...) People throughout the ages have been. Check your ancient history. (...) "it" gets (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. And any who did would throw popcorn and tell you to shut up. (...) Yep. That is the idea. Complete freedom in a society is a chimera. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sounds like a movie title, or a 'professional' wrestling bill; "Lugnet Gun Debate Wars III: The Wrath Of Lar" -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What other purposes of walking can u think of? One foot in front of the other causes a displacement away from where you was standing, enjoyment of it is irrelevant - you are still walking therefore moving. (...) Well it is isn't it - the (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can agree with the thought. Never safe to assume that the losers who end up making up the regulations and nit-picky junk would actually create a program that would be effective. (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But I think what we need to know is which of these things make intercourse different from walking such that the use of the activity toward some goal other than the 'original' one is deemed an illness rather than perfectly reasonable? (...) If (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not live in the US. Define 'readily available'. I can, with a certain amount of paperwork, go down to my local sporting goods store, or outdoor supplier, and pick up a hunting rifle or shotgun. I don't even know what I would have to do to (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Two things. 1) You can *never* be 100% sure that anyone committed any crime with circumstantial evidence. 2) Were you a juror for the O.J. travesty, uh sorry, trial? -John <donning asbestos suit for wrath of Lar> (...) Repeat after me. I was (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But the odds are as much in favor of the fatality being mine as anyone elses. If I'm involved in a violent crime, I would simply rather the chance of a fatality was slim or none. (...) Hm. I'm sorry, but the number of little old ladies who get (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you live in the US (do you?) guns are readily available to criminals. When I was in highschool (roughly 1985-6) I was periferally associated with a group of kids who brought guns from Texas to Missouri and sold them to other kids at a huge (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, but we are. As a nation with the economic, military and technological capability, it is our responsibility as a nation to do what we can to preserve peace. (1) Our actions in Kosovo can only lengthen the conflict and turn other nations (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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