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Re: Terms and Conditions Question
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Wed, 19 May 1999 04:45:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Simon Denscombe writes:
> Ed Jones wrote:
> > I have stayed out of this debate until now, but this needs a response. • First
> > off, have you been living in a cave?? I am serious, didn't you ever study
> > history?
>
> I got a grade B in History - one of the highest in my school. I live in
> a house BTW.
>
> > Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of man. If it wasn't, why
> > was there a need to mention it in the bible (not that I belive in the it)?
>
> OK why is the statement in the Bible going against it - there obviously
> must be something wrong with it for such a statement to be made.
I will assume you are talking about Leviticus 18:22, yes? Tell me, do wear
cotton/poly blend t-shirts? How well do you keep Kosher? How about hair cuts?
Do you trim your beard? Leviticus 19:19, 19:26, and 19:27, respectively. All
of the commands I mention are given equal weight.
> > I could cite other examples, but these should get the point across.
> > Homosexuality has always been with us. In fact, it is only in this century
> > that it has been shunned by the so-called "christians".
Actually - that's not true. Many societies throughout the ages have proscribed
it, just as many have tolerated or actively embraced it.
> Now why has it be shunned?
<shrug> I don't know. My guess would be the most common reasons for
prejudice: ignorance and willful intolerance.
> > They use God as a crutch to base their fears and ignorance.
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> Why not? Everyone has to believe in something it helps the mind to
> focus correctly and operate more efficiently. There is nothing wrong
> with religion - it gives people a conscience - the difference between
> right and wrong which people forget these days - either that or believe
> the entire universe just appeared from nowhere - I have no opinion on
> the evolution/big bang subject.
>
> > Because they don't have a choice. Living a so-called "normal" life for a
> > homosexual is totally abnormal. It is a falsehood to the homosexual and to
> > everyone that homosexual knows, meets, marries, etc. Do you realize that
> > the highest rate of teenage suicide is teenage homosexuals trying to adopt a
> > "normal" life and not fitting in? Not knowing what to do? Fear of being
> > disowned by their parents, friends and everyone they love. Fearing for
> > their own uncertain future as a homosexual because of the rampant
> > discrimination they see from their familys and others around them towards
> > homosexuals.
>
> It's their fault for being a freak and not getting help. People are
> bullied - it's a thing of life but if someone deliberately goes out of
> their way to get bullied it's their fault.
Do you realize how bigoted that sentence is?
> *** THIS DISCUSSION HAS NOW BEEN TERMINATED ***
> *** SEE REPLY TO JAMES BROWN'S POST ***
Neither you, nor anyone else, excluding Todd & Suzanne, have any right to
terminate a conversation in this forum.(1)
James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/
1: Besides, I can cite numerous examples which prove, (in a legal sense, as
opposed to a scientific sense) that conversations in .debate only die when they
have been beaten to death with a stick. ;-)
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| (...) Oh dear you've decided to use the word bigot, now the debate gets stupid. You are bigoted because you are intolerant of the opinion I have expressed here. (...) You suggested terminating this discussion, I did a concluding statement and you (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Bigot: (n) : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices silly me, I used a "forbidden" word, simply because it seemed appropriate. Guess I'll have to stay away from those hot-button words. Next thing (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <FBzz21.M93@lugnet.com> <374415C5.502DDE51@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Historically, the thread has morphed, but the point right now is whether or not homosexuality is an illness (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <37442038.5646F4D2@c...souri.edu> <slrn7kc7p4.2kv.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Maybe a little of both and some of neither. Like so many other things about us complex creatures, (...) (25 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <37442038.5646F4D2@c...souri.edu> <slrn7kc7p4.2kv.cjc@...S.UTK.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) It's not an illness, probably genetic, and, in (...) (25 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <37477ECE.755D6E19@uswest.net> <FC67Iw.89r@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) How would I know? Why would I care? (...) None. (...) I (...) (25 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <374838F6.FDB2A443@uswest.net> <FC7E9M.LGA@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I'll take your word on that since I have never actually seen (...) (25 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| <3748351E.406C0030@uswest.net> <37495DB6.C2FDB746@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm the last man standing!! I win! It wasn't beaten to death by a stick after all :-) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I got a grade B in History - one of the highest in my school. I live in a house BTW. (...) OK why is the statement in the Bible going against it - there obviously must be something wrong with it for such a statement to be made. (...) Now why (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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