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Re: Genocide and terrorism (Was: SW <-> Russia conspiracy)
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Date: 
Tue, 18 May 1999 18:45:57 GMT
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jsproat@geocities.comNOMORESPAM
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
If you leave the borders of the US, I feel you are on your own. The US
obligation to assist you in protecting your rights (which the US
rejects, see my rants about the police being able to blow off responding
to your 911s) ends at the border. Heck, it doesn't seem to exist inside
the border.

I don't agree.  (Well, it just fits withing my B.K. philosophy.)  I've lived
overseas most of my life (1).  In countries which are allies or even just
friendly to the US, I appreciate (a minimal part of) the presence that the
US keeps, especially with hostiles just over the horizon.

Sproaticus wrote:
I'm surprised you didn't mention Panama.
I was merely giving examples, but that's a good one. Being exhaustive is
exhausting, we meddle way too much.

I mentioned Panama for a reason.  We were obligated to go in there and shake
things up, once our puppet dictator started misbehaving.  Noriega was our
bad boy, and we spanked him.

Granted, he shouldn't have been there in the first place.  And since Bush
both helped put him in power and take him out, perhaps ol' Curious George
should be behind bars as well.

My point is:  There are many times when the absense of our presense would be
more damaging than our presense.  Damaging to them, damaging to our
neighbors, and damaging to us.

more's the pity. I've been to New Jersey and he can have it.

Just the north end.  :-D  Let's keep the woodlands.

Cheers,
- jsproat

1.  Kwajalein Missile Range, Republic of the Marshall Islands.  I've watched
the systematic rape, pillage and ethnic cleansing (2) of a stone-age culture
by the US since I was age 5 -- I won't argue that there are a lot of places
where the US simply doesn't belong.

2.  http://www.rmiembassyus.org/4thatom.html

--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@geocities.com>
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5249/
May the Force be with y'all.



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(...) Libertarianism doesn't speak to it directly except to say that if you feel you're your brother's keeper, that is fine, keep on keeping, but that does not mean that everyone has to contribute to support your sense of obligation. Hence, my taxes (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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