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Re: Genocide and terrorism (Was: SW <-> Russia conspiracy)
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Tue, 18 May 1999 00:36:56 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> Sproaticus wrote:
> > Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > > The US is not the world's policeman.
> > Ah, but we are. As a nation with the economic, military and technological
> > capability, it is our responsibility as a nation to do what we can to
> > preserve peace. (1)
> Disagree. We are not our brother's keeper. Not as people, not as a
> nation.
That's an interesting stance. All I've learned -- from my faith and
otherwise -- indicates that we are our brother's keeper; e.g. we're
responsible to do what we can for others. Is your "hands-off" approach a
tenet of Libertarianism, or have you learned it from other sources?
> Where a preemptive strike against evil serves a clear national
> interest, maybe. (1) But not here, or in Somalia, or Haiti, or Grenada
> or even in Iraq...
Agreement about Somalia, Haiti, and Iraq. However, some American issues
were at hand in Granada (mostly saving a handful of American "college
students" and Stopping Communism).
I'm surprised you didn't mention Panama.
> 1 - Our entry in WW2 was justified(2). Way late, in fact, Germany almost
> got the bomb. Should not have stopped at the Rhine, either, Patton was
> right, we could have saved a lot of treasure if we had put an end to
> Soviet evil while we had the chance.
I was under the impression that our entry into WW2 was mostly motivated by
conflict our allies (mainly Britan) were currently having. Justifying our
actions afterhand is nice, but we had few clues about the effects of nuclear
weapons before we entered the war.
> 2- OTOH, some argue that WW2 would never have happened if we had not
> entered WW1, since WW1 would have ended in a draw and Germany would
> never have been raped by Versailles and thus Hitler would never have
> risen. There were no clear good guys in WW1 by that analysis. But that's
> alternate history, who knows for sure.
Scary thing is, is that we're *still* raping nations via international
treaty all the time...
Cheers,
- jsproat
1. obbiblicalref: The phrase "Not my brother's keeper" probably didn't
originate from the Bible, though it did appear early on in it. The story
goes something like this: in the Book of Genesis, after Cain slew Abel, the
Lord came poking around wondering out loud (most likely for Cain's benefit)
where Abel went -- Cain sez, "I dunno, I'm not his keeper", etc. This
example is very often used in my church (and probably others) as what *not*
to do in a similar situation.
--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@geocities.com>
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5249/
May the Force be with y'all.
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