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In lugnet.general, Andreas Stabno writes:
> Jeremy, I will be more than happy to remove your address from my list, but a
> simple email could have been a little more effective and to the point.
This is effective, no? Rudeness for rudeness. And I think I've made my point.
*I* pay for that in-box, and I say that you need *my* permission to make money
from it. Don't get defensive because you were bit on the tush for being
unethical and careless.
> Perhaps you did not read past the first part of my message:
> "In all likelihood you have dealt with me before by trading pieces or buying
> sets from me. If we have not yet completed a deal and you are on this list,
> we have at least corresponded by email before. If you don't want to receive
> this type of email for any reason at all, just let me know. I will be glad to
> remove your name from my list."
And perhaps I did read this, and still disagreed with you. Why should I give
you the courtesy if you have given me none? Yours is the exact same tactic
used by thousands of spammers. It's called opt-out, which means that I, as a
spam victim, need to make some action to tell you to not bother me again. And,
as has been mentioned here and elsewhere many times, this is generally a Bad
Thing to do, as it only serves to verify that my e-mail address is live.
Sorry, but I am firm in this.
> For the record, I am very disappointed in these allegations
Let's not beat around the bush. They're accusations. And well-deserved, in my
view.
> and can simply say
> that my notice was only sent to people who have dealt with me before. Many
> people responded very favorably to my message, and to be frank it seems to be
> common AFOL business practice to notify existing customers of new deals.
And this! I am not an "existing customer". I buy from whom I like, you have
no claim on my business, and I make no promises of future business. I find the
insinuation that you own some portion of myself -- namely the right to dump
what garbage you want into my in-box for free -- unfriendly and annoying at
best, insulting and grossly arrogant at worst. Especially considering that you
as a spammer have been through this before, I'm surprised and disappointed that
you haven't learned.
- jsproat
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