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(...) Andrew, An LDraw parts creation tutorial is coming soon to ldraw.org. Its now in the revision process and should appear within a week or so. In the mean time, I reccommend asking a regular part author for some tips to get you started. -Tim (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I did speak to Scott on the phone tonight. He said he'd look through his old stuff on the site (it was a university account and was removed), and get back to me via email. Please keep your eyes peeled for pictures, though. -Tim (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I am seeking a picture of James Jessiman for the ldraw.org website. I did not know one existed until Papp Imre emailed me yesterday claiming he had seen one on a website somewhere. He suggested James' site, but I couldn't find any there. My best bet (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.people)
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(...) Firemen,Railroad (...) and (...) posting (...) mpd (...) a (...) inside (...) unpack (...) at (...) get (...) First of all, MLCAD can build it's own MPD files... All the options for mpds are in the "multipart" menu. I use MLCAD all the time (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Tim, I'd be willing to edit. I can't promise 100% perfection for commas and other punctuation, but I'm willing to give it a shot if you want to send the stuff to me. If you decide to, please note the email change. I'm currently working on some (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) [reply-to set to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, and message Cc: tburger666@aol.com] Tom, If you are referring to the post you made a week or so ago, I never received reference material from you at that point. You did send me a zip file last night, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Firstly you should have posted this to lugnet.cad or lugnet.cad.dev. lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw is for discussion of the ldraw.org web page only. As for your question, what you want to do with the submodels is fine. For posting to your home (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi, I do have some questions, and i'm sure someone can answer those. I made a .DAT model,using the MLCAD program, of a passengercar, and made a second one from an other passenger car. I made some Minifigs too (standing and sitting position of a (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) (rereading what I wrote) Uh, durrr, that came out as hogwash, didn't it. I meant, if the pages that are created dynamically happen to come out the same as though they had been served statically (IOW, if it's static content generated (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. That AND the sort of data you are fetching. In certain cases, a DB engine that has cached the results of queries, coupled with a requesting program that can use the results straightaway, can be faster than a raw filesystem, even if the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I have to wonder about that assertion in a really skeptical way. In either case, assuming the filesystem and the database aren't poorly written, the amount of RAM in the server is really the gating factor. If you have 50 MB of static files and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim: [ About instructions from non-Lugnuts. ] I wouldn't let non-Lugnuts post to Lugnet through ldraw.org. We should rather let them upload to ldraw.org, and let the OMR editors post the instructions to lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets if they qualify. To (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Borland Pascal, Borland C/C++, and Microsoft C/C++ all use the IEEE format for floating point numbers (float, double and extended are all IEEE defined) because these are the formats supported by the 80x87 line math coprocessors. (Even though (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org Model of the Month - January 2000
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I'm getting this month's MOTM winner a little bit early. Ah well, its 2000 in certain parts of the world :) 6 hours to go here. Birger Garbe is the winner for January with his Tower of Bricktown model. Congratulations Birger! (URL) Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I just updated the ldraw.org Feature Article to a short BFC Extensions teaser by Jacob. Also, all future Feature Articles will appear at (URL) and the past articles will be archived there as well. -Tim (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim, Are the DAT files for the MOTM available for download? James (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Voting for the January ldraw.org Model of the Month competition is now online. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Possibly. You could always ask. If not, just put up a page for it on your website when you make it. (...) Soon...probably in the next few days. There's a Parts Reference ready to go up, but we gotta get final approval on re-publication of it (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) about (...) cool (...) on (...) slot (...) it. I agree. The only way it fits into the ldraw.org page is that the image is pov-rayed. I think that Lugnet would be a much more appropriate place for it but I doubt Todd would go for it. Ryan PS I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) :) (...) Sounds like a nice idea. The only think I see that might be strange about it is the feature article section IMO should focus on Lego CAD items, cool new LDraw stuff, new standards, etc. Steve, Jacob, and I were planning on putting up (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
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(...) well (...) site has (...) cluttered (...) Topics (...) Awards. (...) in (...) rail (...) him and (...) COOL!! I'll have to check it out later. (...) Hopefully (...) has (...) If you really want to get rid of the MLCad article(personlly I'm (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
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(...) Replying to my own post, ugg.... Just forgot to mention that Tom Burger is to thank for the minifig images. Thanks Tom!! -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I just finished doing some general housekeeping updates to ldraw.org, as well as adding a new Press & Awards section. This section will feature press articles which have been written about LDraw/ldraw.org and awards the site has won (only one of (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Datsville on ldraw.org? (Was: Re: OMR Planning - Almost There)
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The suggestion has come up to host Datsville on ldraw.org. I understand it is comfortable on Lugnet, but I'm willing to entertain the idea if the rest of you (namely John) are. Please look over the following discussion and reply accordingly. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yep. (...) Ok, I wasn't thinking that one. What about something silly like OMR Model Author ID numbers? A model author can register first and if they're a LUGNET member they put their LUGNET member number and password in, and it brings up all (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Maybe that's where the model editors would come in. But it's a headache nonetheless. (...) I was thinking along the lines of people impersonating others. But there are probably other rules too... (...) I was thinking that if you want ldraw.org (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hee. :) (...) Yeah. (...) We could ask for all the model info, and the server will create the header with the submission. But then what about submodels? They'd need to have headers cause we can't have a bazillion fields for the separate (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) faux pa (although the "paw" bit is funnier) (...) Unfortunately, not everyone is going to get the model header right, so you'll probably need (required) fields for name, email, etc. The only problem is that you most likely want a comments (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) [snippety-poo] Good additions to the list. I think both our lists of rules need to be edited and refined for clarity before being published. And then examples added... (...) anyone?? That sounds like a good idea if that's what you and Jeff (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
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(...) Doh! Yep, I did :) (...) The fopaw (sp?) of registering for posting hit me about 5 minutes later when I re-read my post. You propose a good solution. (...) That *could* be described in the Creation/Submission Rules pages. (...) We could make (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I think that your list just about what I can think of as necessary plus this - If the piece is not available(for patterned parts see #4) a comment must be added in its place stating what piece should go there(piece number preferred if it is (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
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(...) I believe you mean lugnet.cad.models.sets (...) One problem I foresee is that you are required to register in order to post. One way this could be solved would be to register ldraw.org as a valid poster, and then post the messages from an (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | OMR Planning - Almost There
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Ryan, Jeff, Todd, etc. I just unearthed an old unfinished project of mine - the OMR Model Creation/Submission guide for ldraw.org. Now I see that we were much further along than I thought we were. Some things that need to be finalized are: Model (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) ?? (...) I agree. It looks to me that the article could be edited for clarity and layout. Someone with better knowledge of the DAT file than me want to do that? Either I or someone else can put it in the ldraw.org page format, the template is (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
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(...) ...Cool! :-, I've needed this functionality on my NT box for a *long* time, and it never occurred to me that MS could've gotten this one right. ;-) Thanks! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) In Windows, looks for the hosts file in the main Windows directory. If it isn't there, create one. If you use Notepad, be sure it doesn't change the filename to hosts.txt when you save it. Steve (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Question #20. I don't about "official", but I have some other words to describe it... That article (question 20) is too large for the FAQ, and should be broken out as a separate item/page on the website. (...) Seems like the best way to go (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Thanks for the fix but I am on a windows box which does not have an etc folder. I have e-mailed tech support and will see what happens. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Jonathan: (...) For a temporary fix, append the following line to "/etc/hosts" (that's the name of the file in Unix): 130.226.51.217 hugin.risoe.dk www.ldraw.org That way your machine will skip looking www.ldraw.org up through DNS. Play well, Jacob (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) And then my dns says cant find hugin.ldraw.org. I will mail the tech support people and tell them of the problem. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) % host www.ldraw.org www.ldraw.org has address 130.226.51.217 However, (URL) seems to send out an HTTP "Location:" header which redirects to (URL). --Todd (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Jonathan: (...) You don't need "the IP", you need the machines IP _number_. It's 130.226.51.217. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | What is the IP for ldraw.org?
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I need to know the IP for ldraw.org. I cant get through to it because my ISP's dns server cant find it. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
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Tim: (...) Yes. The FAQ contains something that is supposed to be a description of the LDraw language. I don't know if people consider it "official". (...) Yes. Some formal specifications, some example files, and maybe even some programs for testing (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
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(...) I think its a good idea. (...) In what way? Is it on the FAQ? Perhaps we could include some definitions on some other part of the site. (...) The only thing that's floating here is my brain. ;) (...) Since I haven't been following that thread (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
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(...) Considered, yes. Done something, no. (...) We try to do that already. (...) How do we do that? (...) I am not sure that the BP7 floating-point format exactly matches the IEEE format, but I will look it up. (...) Yes. Also for easy testing of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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Can we pick one newsgroup for this discussion? Please? (...) I don't see much of a need for this, other than saying programs can claim they are "LDraw Compatible". (...) Nah. Steve (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | LDraw DAT certification for clones?
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Say, has anyone considered LDraw DAT file certification for clones? (I don't mean clone brands of LEGO bricks, I mean clone software of LDraw/LEdit/etc.) Some random thoughts... ldraw.org could maintain the official definition of the LDraw DAT file (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Parts Guide
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(...) *Groan* don't remind me... That would probably make #1 if I had a list of top 10 Lugnet headaches. At least that one is long over... (...) I've spoken with a couple people on parts tutorials, and it appears some might be in the works, but they (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Parts Guide
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I was reading a while ago and ran across a thread about Jonahthan Wilson and his posting stuff. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone would write a tutor on how to design a part. I would like to learn, but don't know how. I guess you could call me a (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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[ XFUT lugnet.cad where this question belongs ] Quozl: (...) We all started there at some point. (...) There should be a "stud.dat" in "complete.exe". Try to run "complete.exe -y" again. If this doesn't fix the problem you should download (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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First of all: I'm a complete newbie to LDraw. The situation: I've downloaded complete.exe and run it, saved the parts list from ldraw.org in C:\LDRAW\, and when I open up a LDRAW model in LDlite, none of the bricks have studs. When I open up MLCAD, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Correct. I like the phrase 'The LDraw System' identifying the original .dat format and the programs which use the 'System.' [1] (...) Obviously .dat files have become integrated with part files. I like .ldr or .ldm for 'LDraw Model.' .mpl for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney wrote: <Good questions. Which I snipped.> In my opinion: A name is needed to identify the concept of "formated to be compatible with LDraw and LEdit, as extended". This name needs to be separate from the concept of "the LDraw suite of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) That would be great! I'm not sure if Jacob would want someone else's CGI running on the server, why not ask him. Here's the correct link: (URL) you'd like, just work with the fields (I believe they're commented in the HTML source) and we'll (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) I could do a form and/or a cgi to go with it. I am an expert with cgi and html etc. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. (...) Personally, I think the term 'ldraw.org' refers to the actual website. The group of people could remain 'L-CAD' if desired, or 'The LDraw Organization,' or something completely different. On the site, I refer to ldraw.org as the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Does it really? I thought it all came from the parts.lst file and the program referenced that. Or...is it because that's what the program starts up with? -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) I see what you mean. ledit has encoded references to parts (the 2 x 4 brick springs to mind) that cant be changed. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Yes. (...) Try using terms like: LDraw -- a (mostly historical) software package for creating LEGO-type models on your computer. ldraw.org -- the group formerly known as the L-CAD mailing list. A (very) loosely organized group of people, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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LDraw is the original program that writes (one form of)* .dat files. All the other programs that write this type of .dat file are 'LDraw compatibles'. How's that? * i believe .dat is a fairly common extension used for lots of stuff. John Matthews (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) I don't have contact with his family, but I believe James' old rivtron@... address still works. I would like to see a picture as well. If someone would like to give me his family's address, I will write. If someone else would like to write, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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I think that ldraw should refer to the ldraw program and the all the official parts then we refer to all the other tools as ldlite or mlcad or whatever I think we should keep the .dat extension for ldraw files -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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Hi Tim! One other thing... You mentioned in another group about James' background and history. One thing I would like to see is a picture of him. Can you contact his family or put feelers out. I think that would be an excellent item to add to his (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Hi Adam! (...) Right. (...) We could keep the parts .dat and make new models .ldr (or .ldm - LDraw Model), or we could also change parts to .ldp (LDraw Part), just to distinguish the difference. (...) Yeah, I'd really like to see LDraw II come (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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Hi Tim! Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199912...omm.com... (...) format. (...) include (...) their (...) LDraw is James' software package. It will always be that. It's like 3D Studio Max or Adobe Photoshop, they have (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | What is 'LDraw?'
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Because of some of the more recent advancements in software which utilizes the .dat file, I have been thinking about what LDraw *is*. I think we should firmly establish what LDraw is if there are going to [and there will] be more advancements in (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Is ldraw.org down?
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Sjaacko: (...) ldraw.org is up and seems to be working just fine. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Is ldraw.org down?
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Is it? I cannot seem to connect to it. -- Greetingz... Sjaacko (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | More info on James Jessiman
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A while back I received an email asking for more information on James Jessiman. I thought about what this person wrote, and it would be nice to get some more info on James for the site, so people can have a better idea of who he was. Below is the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: FIRST Lego Leage competition at MSI Chicago
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(...) Tom, Its great to hear from someone involved with one of the First teams! My ideas for LDraw and the teams would simply be for the kids to learn how to program their robot design into the computer to document its construction etc. LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.robotics)
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| | FIRST Lego Leage competition at MSI Chicago
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I just returned from the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago where they held the Illinois state FIRST Lego League Mindstorms competition. FIRST is an organization that uses Lego Mindstorms to help prommote kids pursuing careers in engineering (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Nephilim <jthompson@esker.com> wrote in message news:FLv94v.I82@lugnet.com... (...) I've done the same in the past. As I see it, the thoughts of the community can be broken down in the following ways: (1) The purists hate the idea of any non-LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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The winner for ldraw.org's December Model of the Month competition is Thomas Burger, with his 'Datsville LMT Out From MacArthur Tunnel' image. Check it out at (URL) Congrats Tom! -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) One of MLCAD's great strengths is that is allows you to alter the units used in its three scales. They only default to Lego sizes. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) The only other thing I'd want is a "MyParts" page, where an author could update just their own entries, without scrolling through everything in the current list. Would make it easier to update stuff already added to the list. Steve (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ FUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw ] Manfred: (...) I have written Zach and asked him what is happening, but it looks like part of the problem is related to a misconfiguration of the server (I didn't get any HTTP 404 errors, only 403's). If anybody are (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.people)
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: [snip] (...) Tim Courtney replied: (...) When it still was accessible for me, I've been using the Parts Tracker a lot. In my opinion the latest version of this site was working quite well (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Aha! I don't remember that pain, but that sounds about right! That would certainly explain why that double-tube plate made parts connected to it so difficult to pull apart! :-( --Todd [followups to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands] (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) I'd say, brickwise, Tyco's biggest problem is they didn't round off the edges of the bricks. You thought it hurt to step on *LEGO* bricks? Those Tyco pieces were doubly painful. Also, the lack of rounding made it hard to pry the pieces apart. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) It's funny you should mention that; I had the same thought once I'd downloaded the latest version of L3P and started messing around with the quality settings. If I were to use a CSTUD.DAT file, what would have to be different about it for L3P (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Dave Schuler <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:FLtn2z.KB3@lugnet.com... (...) or (...) be (...) with (...) stirred (...) clones, (...) to (...) to (...) clear (...) If (...) that: (...) clone- (...) the (...) shouldn't (...) of (...) (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not especially code-savvy, but I'll try to put something together without embarrassing myself! I'll mail you the link when I have something to show you. Thanks, Dave! (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) LOL :) Here we go, Dave. Set up your web page with your clone libraries on it and let me know the URL. I'll link to it from the ldraw.org links page. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim Courtney skrev i meddelandet <4.2.0.58.1999112708...mm.com>... (...) models. (...) used (...) of (...) Well, I never said anything about making the models public in .dat-format, did I? I said _documenting_ my own work (or my kid's). (...) I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) C'mon, Tim! I'm trying to play the persecuted martyr here, and you're not letting me! 8^) Dave! (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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I'm not sure I understand your question perfectly, but I can use clones for two purposes: 1. A cool colour or shape that TLG does not supply. 2. Hacking! Building in micro-switches, making cable tunnels and such things. But I am a Lego purist in (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) yes i did it once.modified part 4864. cut it in half length wize, and used it as a indycar spoiler wing seen at < www.geocities.com/tb...talia2.gif > (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Why not invert a plate in LDraw and group them together, use it as a submodel? You don't need to model something like what you described. But to answer the question, I don't know. Some people modify pieces by cutting them and such, would they (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Do people model parts that don't exist in the LEGO universe? i.e. Plates with studs on both top and bottom, or bricks otherwise shaped in ways that have no real-world analogs? Just curious - I've glued plates together to get exactly that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Which leads to another question. If you make a model with Lego bricks mixed with Byggis [1], how will the model be identified as such, and how will the individual clone pieces be identified as such? Obviously someone with a Lego-only (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Theoretically it would. I'm still holding on to the notion that (URL) should remain Lego-pure and the Lego aspect of it should not be shoved aside. Also, I wouldn't want to do all the work for each of the other sites, there would be a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim Courtney skrev i meddelandet <4.2.0.58.1999112701...mm.com>... (...) [And many has said many things in this thread...] I think you are all a bit over-reacting! Of course www.ldraw.org should _mainly_ cover the LEGO use of LDRAW, as that's what (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Legal calamities aside, wouldn't it be cool if each clone or construction system could have its own subdomain of ldraw.org? (6 URLs) would solve all the issues perfectly. --Todd (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah, it is a very tricky subject, and could easily go either way IMO. (...) Naw, extreme is like no BURPs, CRAPPs, Town Jr. Pieces (that's not all wrong), even minifigs, like the Lego Purists' Pages. (...) Yeah. You could even go so far as to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Just a reminder, voting is now taking place for the December ldraw.org Model of the Month contest. Voting will continue until Tuesday, November 30, when the new winner will be announced. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yeah, a lot of things can change my mind on this :) I think we've discussed it enough for me to see the middle point and plant my feet down. Larry, you're right to an extent. I can't let my personal disgust towards non-Lego parts get in the (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not against hosting imitation brand parts or libraries on ldraw.org, since LDraw's file format doesn't have any sort of LEGO-brand requirement. I'd *personally* be somewhat bothered to see non-LEGO stuff there, but I also think that it (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, I know you do, now. But I don't think Todd does (or maybe I'm not reading him right) and I think he's got a fair chance of changing your mind. (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) What's wrong with the current version? What problems (besides downtime) have been experienced? (...) Good question. Obviously its up to Zach to make the move, we're not stepping on any toes here. (...) :) -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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